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    Time Out Chicago / Issue 152 : Jan 24–30, 2008
    Blog critics

    Critical condition

    Chicago’s top taste makers discuss why they critique culture—and why anyone should listen to them.

    By Kris Vire
    Illustrations by Jude Buffum


    Kris Vire: Here’s a thing: Goldstar Events claims that its users said, in a survey, that they were most likely to go to websites with user-generated reviews rather than to newspapers or magazines. Something like 62 percent versus 25 percent for print.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: Why do you think that is?


    Donna SeamanDonna Seaman: Is there something narcissistic about this?


    Sam JonesSam Jones: In part that’s because, as Flaubert and the makers of American Idol knew, there’s nothing funnier than stupidity.


    Don HallDon Hall: A distrust for the megacorporations that own the media...?


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: Yeah. And are they aware of the street teams of computer bloggers hired by studios, record companies, etc. to post (many of those) “unbiased reviews?”


    Sam JonesSam Jones: I mean, with user reviews you get smart stuff, too, but the stupidity is a certainty.


    Anne HolubAnne Holub: Could that just be a Web versus print preference?



    Kris Vire: Anne: user reviews. Edited Web publications were a separate category.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: I think it has a lot to do with an anti-intellectual bias that has long persisted in our culture.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: The idea that snooty eggheads don’t know anything ’bout movies that Joe Six-Pack doesn’t.


    Kris Vire: I think Nathan’s on to something. There’s a sense that critics are snobs.


    Donna SeamanDonna Seaman: Having strong opinions makes one an elitist?


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: I think what most people really do is what I do: Google a movie or book or album (after forming my own opinion in the latter case) and see, via a mix of blogs, user sites, webzines and print publications, what a variety of people are saying.


    Sam JonesSam Jones: Seriously though, user reviews ensure a kind of scope of coverage no editorial team can provide.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: No, Sam. No way.


    Chuck SudoChuck Sudo: User reviews can be very unreliable. And prone to ringers.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: That’s true but there’s also no barrier to entry, which is both a good and bad thing.


    Anne HolubAnne Holub: Isn’t there strength in numbers? Like democracy in action?


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: Here’s what no one is doing that should be done: Matter magazine did it in the ’80s. One lead review of, say, 400 words. And then four other critics each weigh in with 150 to 200 words. It was a great way to get that conversation and broad range of opinion. After the end of print and before Home Depot, my webzine will work that way.


    Donna SeamanDonna Seaman: I agree, we need a mix.


    Sam JonesSam Jones: But honestly, no print source is telling me about Gonçalo Tavares. But some reader out there is. You can bank on it. No matter how obscure—it’s out there. And that matters.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: But we just said earlier that in the new age, the reader is the writer. The writer is the reader. I thought we just killed those distinctions, Sam.


    Sam JonesSam Jones: Let’s say—some nonprint, nonprofessional, nonedited, nonpaid, nontrained writer.


    Don HallDon Hall: I’m right here.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: But a writer nonetheless.


    Sam JonesSam Jones: True.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: Somebody should hire that writer. But there are fewer and fewer jobs all the time.


    Anne HolubAnne Holub: Didn’t we all start out that way on some level?



    Kris Vire: That’s how I got here.


    Chuck SudoChuck Sudo: Sometimes I think I’m still there.


    Mike SulaMike Sula: Or soon to be.


    Sam JonesSam Jones: For many people, the Internet is a vast internship opportunity.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: That’s true. I’ve always seen criticism as an extension of fandom. If you’re not passionate about something you probably shouldn’t be writing about it.


    Donna SeamanDonna Seaman: Most people writing on the Web hope to be in print, too. Look at the new anthologies, in book form, or Web lit.


    Chuck SudoChuck Sudo: For the writer who truly wants to work on his craft, the Internet can be invaluable.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: I spent ten years writing for free for fanzines. The webzines of their day. But I had to sneak into Kinko’s at night and have a friend run off the copies for free on his key card. Now, it’s as simple as getting some server space. Kids today don’t know how good they have it.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: Unless they wanna make a living at it.



    Kris Vire: For those of us who do get paid for our writing, would you still do it if you weren’t? Would you head to Blogspot and keep cranking it out?


    Donna SeamanDonna Seaman: Yes, ’fraid so.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: Oh yeah.


    Mike SulaMike Sula: Sure.


    Jim DeRogatisJim DeRogatis: Hell yeah.


    Nathan RabinNathan Rabin: I’d be a lot more frustrated, but I’d still be out there trying to say something that matters.


    Chuck SudoChuck Sudo: Absolutely. Still do.


    Anne HolubAnne Holub: Definitely. Of course, I don’t get paid now sooo…


    Don HallDon Hall: Which indicates that for all the bitching about money, money has little to do with this thing we do.

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