I have only one criticism to make of Pat Condell - like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris, he uses 9/11 as a stick to beat religion. Had he bothered to read the evidence - most eloquently put by David Ray Griffin - he would know that the official story is impossible to believe. How ironic, then, that Griffin is a theologian! In this specific respect, Griffin is a far better scientist than Dawkins, Hitchens or Harris - he goes where the evidence leads, no matter how unpleasant the conclusion. Just one other point - my agreement with Condell about religion is restricted to radical Islam, Roman Catholicism, and fundamentalist Christianity, for between them they have much to answer for.
Pat Condell: interview
Time Out meets Pat Condell, who doesn‘t respect your beliefs and doesn‘t care if you‘re offended
Pat Condell doesn’t much care for any form of religion. ‘I’m not saying it doesn’t have its uses,’ he declares. ‘Personally, I turn to it whenever I want my intelligence insulted.’ He particularly dislikes what he calls ‘God’s little helpers’, the ones who ‘take it upon themselves to police the rest of us on His behalf’. He’s even sceptical about so-called religious moderates. ‘They’ve helped to nurture extremism by tolerating it in their midst and by constantly demanding respect for faith-based opinion.’
The media, Condell says, give airtime to ‘lunatics like Christian Voice’ whenever there’s a storm in a teacup like the arguments over ‘Jerry Springer: the Opera’. ‘Or, when Muslims erupt in fury over nothing, as with the recent veil nonsense, the BBC invites some hate-mongering fuckwit who represents nobody to speak for all the Muslims in Britain.’
He’s expressing these and other controversial views in his stand-up show ‘Faith Hope and Sanity’, subtitled ‘A Few Jokes About Religion Before It Kills Us All’. He’s mounting a simultaneous assault on three separate fronts. ‘It seems to me that fundamentalist Christians, jihadist Muslims and settlement-building Jews are causing more than their share of trouble in the world. World events are being driven by people with apocalyptic delusions, while here in Britain a paralysing liberal guilt allows religious bigots to use intimidation and violence to stamp out free speech. If you can’t get laughs out of all that, you can’t get them out of anything.’
Condell’s 56. He was born an Irish Catholic but educated in Church of England schools. ‘I found myself segregated in assembly and shunted into another room while everyone said their morning prayers. I didn’t mind. The whole pantomime seemed hollow to me even then. Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.’
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Pat Condell - a genius, and an inspiration. Keep making us laugh, keep telling the TRUTH. Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks, Mike. Fact is...the idol-worshippers need to attribute our existence to something. Rather than accept that we just don't know and take on the mantle of (at least) 'agnostic' they allow themselves to be manipulated by powerful people who have long-understood the gullibility of the masses: it was ever thus. How coincidental that the queen is also head of the church of England! I read somewhere not long ago that as recently as 1947 a small majority of the British public believed her maj' to be related somehow to god! How can it be that in 2009 the world still prostrates itself before statues and humbly concurs with the premise that we are born 'sinful'? Were we bo***cks! I was born clean as the driven snow, as were my kids. Children only begin to doubt their self-worth when weirdos of all 'denominations' and proven 'kiddie-fiddlers' from the catholic church start telling them how vile they are. To all church people I say 'Piss off' and get a life.
Cliff, good! I must say I raised my eyebrows when i read ayatollah khomeini, but i thought maybe he DID do SOMETHING sensible, at some point. Couldnt be bothered to look it up at the time. I hope you succeed in rounding up these stupid religious ppl, let me know if you want a hand. Cheers.
Mike! Mike.............I was taking the p**s. I'm amazed you didn't see that..........I can assure you, Mike, I could willingly round-up every stupid, superstitious, fawning god-botherer on Earth and ship them off to the planet Tharg, there to spend eternity bowing, scraping, chanting, nodding, crawling, self-flagellating, worrying and generally demeaning themselves before their own particular effigy (you sure you're not taking the p**s out of me? Prince Edward? Great? Ayatollah Khomeni? Great?) I am astonished beyond description how - world-wide - there are billions of people who willingly don silly hats and robes in order to ridicule themselves at their own, voluntary alter of humiliation. That grown men and women see fit to avoid eating mangoes...or chicken...or baked beans....or fish on a certain day of the week is utterly ridiculous. That seemingly sane, rational people specifically reserve a day in the week / month / year to mill around an effing statue, poke notes in a brick wall, wail to the skies, eat a funny biscuit, spin a wheel, wear a cross, suffocate under a funereal black tent, swing a canful of ashes, slice their son's head with a machete, crawl to a church on hands and knees....ugh....give me strength.
Cliff, first off I'd encourage you not to go down the cheap road of misquoting people. "...pretty much all..." and "All of..." are two quite distinct claims. Of course not ALL of history's greats have been atheists or agnostics (which is what you tried to make it look like I was claiming), just like not ALL atheists or agnostics are good clever people. I do have brains enough to realise that... I still stand by my claim that when analysing great thinkers and people who've contributed a lot to our understanding of the world around us, you'll find that the vast majority of them strongly question(ed) the existence of any god. Whilst believers have been able to prove absolutely nothing in favor of their belief in the existence of god(s), and simply hide behind the all so convenient "oh, but god is mysterious and above all logic and reasoning" excuse, science, logic, reason and rational thinking has taken us from a world where the earth was flat and everything rotated around it, to a world with microchips, computers, cars etc etc. Now, of course no side can prove that any god(s) does or doesn't exist, but why would you chose to join in on bronze age superstitious myths when you can use your brain and go with the wonderful world of science that can actually give you a proper testable explanation for ALL its claims? Oh yes, I forgot, people WANT there to be a god, people WANT there to be a life in heaven after this one, people WANT there to be a meaning with life... And what some of us WANT really makes a difference to what's actually true, doesn't it [insert face of irony here]? Any of you are of course free to believe in whatever god you like (Zeus and Thor are pretty cool, so you might want to give one of them a go for a while), but I think it's great that people like Pat strongly critisise religion and all it's special treatment. I totally agree with him that religion has not earned any respect (look up the history of religion!), and it doesnt deserve any either. We need to get rid of it as far as possible, and embrace open-mindness, thinking for yourself, using your inbuilt moral and progress human kind beyond what religion still insists on today: Don't question anything, just believe, and you will reach heaven (from where you can look down at all those who didn't do what we told them to, and that therefore are now burning forever in hell!!). Religion is clearly for the weak, ignorant and stupid minded. Sadly, that's the majority of of people... Cheers!
Mike, he is right you have got to give him Thora Hurd.she was a great lady for sure but she was PAID to preach the words that were written for her. But when all is said and done she was a great performer. As for all the others they were and are nothing but "FUCKWITS".Cheers again for that one Barry.Onwards and upwards.
Mike: Whaddya mean "All of history's greats have been atheist or agnostic'???? What about 'greats' like pope john paul, cardinal Cormack o'murphy, prince edward, ayatollah khomeini, that bird off songs of praise, Aled Jones and Thora Hurd? Forgot about them, didn't you!!!
Thanks for that Mike I will look him up, deffo. And please award yourself a GOLD star for using your brain.Well done, its very comforting to know that there are still some human beings that have not been brain washed by religion and thank God for that. Just incase RHIANA is peeking in that last bit was a JOKE. Woulden't want her to get her nickers in a twist.
Yes, Bill Maher is great :) And Pat's not lame, he's great too I think. He certainly expresses himself very well. We need more people who think for themselves and stop behaving like (religious) sheep. It's not a coincidence that pretty much all great thinkers and contributors to human progress throughout history have been if not atheist, at least agnostics leaning towards atheism... Cheers!
"Fuckwit" thats a good one Barry.Well I'd rather be a fuckwit than a Dimwit. Next time try and construct comments with some substance, preferable something that you believe in or understand that would be good start.Oh and it would also help all concerned if they made sense.Thanks again for the tip on Bill Maher lets hope he make more sense than you. Tat- ta for now.
Patty is lame, i think bill maher is way better, his jokes are fresher. lol i think we should see pat condell on grumpy old men hahaha
You silly soppy git, i didnt say i believed in god, i just made a comparison about your comment. dont you feel stupid now?!?
Rhiana. Who died and made you sheriff? Didn't your God give man free will? Well I'm exescising mine. But I'm sure you will forgive me after all thats how you God botherers get through the day isen't it. You know by forgiving people who think for themselves and ask the questions that you the selected ones can't answer.But In your weak minded I'm sure it make you feel superior in a strange,sad sort of way.
Hmm, it looks like athiests are converging here how evangelicals swarm street corners. Oh the irony, well you not welcome on time out, so please go away, and stick to your athiest forums.
Religion makes virtue from ignorance. This fact by itself should be warning enough. The Al;chemists of old proclaimed to be able to spin gold from just about any old rubbish that they could lay their hands on. Well, long before the Alchemists jumped on the band wagon there were other more devious Charlatans. Crafted of the same ilk.Promissing not the gleen of Gold to satisfy the greed of Man but ever lasting life.Wow! Now thats what I call an optomistic pitch.How did they think they could get away with it. Well it was thousands of years ago, you know, not long after Man discovered Fire. Well perhaps a bit later than that but like religion this is just guess work, just fantasy so don't hold me to it. All you were asked to do was believe. Don't think, because that would be blasphemy. "I like it" said the conman that should give us a get out of jail card. Any questions we don't like or can't answer, pull out the old blasphemy card."I'm on a roll don't stop me now" You can just imagine the first of the Charlatans,Conmen and Priests exclaiming EUREKE THATS IT! All we gotta do is declare that blind belief is essential if you wan't to be saved. Then invent a higher being that only they the priests can communicate with and only the select few can then benifit from the improved material life here on Earth.Come on you can do it. Come on just try,don't be negative, after all you do wan't to go to heaven,don't you?On a serious note I do believe that religion was sent to lighten Man's burden, to help him get through the tough times here on Earth. Pat Condell makes good that first intention by giving us all a good laugh at ourselves and ofcourse the Arsholes who think that we are all stupid. Keep up the fight Pat. God, if he, she, or it existed would demand it of you.Because even a devine being must have need a good laugh to get him through a shitty week.
Dude, the guy was talking about Zionism which was secular and still is. Oh and so what if someone believes what they want to believe, let it be, im a Muslim revert, if your an athiest or whatever i dont care, im cool with it, you do your own stuff, and i do my own stuff, but dont you dare come out shouting and ridiculing other peoples belief. This isn't a place to vent your anger, do it somewhere, where different jurisdiction applies, and if you dont like the law of the land lobby for it to be amended in the appropriate channels, i dont want time out to fall victim and to be swamped with douche-bag fan boys and girls
Oh, and as for jews, Israel etc, it all stems back to some (very convenient) rubbish claim about god having promised this piece of land to his selected ppl. what a pile of rubbish, and what a pile of dead bodies it's generated over the years too. that's religion for ya! isn't it wonderful :D
I'm definitely all for Pat and his hard hitting comments on things. We need more ppl like him, telling these idiot hardcore religious ppl in their face what most normal, and in particular those of us who see religion is a sign of stupidity, are thinking. It's all ok to preach about this or that person going to hell to be burnt and tortured for ever because they don't recognise some bronze age superstitious myth about an invisible being called god, and it's all ok to demand respect and the right to override this or that rule because of religious beliefs, but when someone stands up for those of us who actually have brains enough to see through all this rubbish and say enough is enough, then ppl go "Oh no, he just wants to stir things up with his militant attitude. Shut him up!!". How pathetic! Until the day someone can give us a proper reason to respect any of this religious rubbish, I have as much respect for your religion as I have for ppl's belief in Santa Claus. He's real too you know! I do respect your right to say and believe whatever you want, but I for sure have no respect for what you believe in unless you can back it up with some real facts and logic. Oh, and by the way, look around you and think about what's given you pretty much every little thing (apart from water, air and other natural things of course) you use in your life today. That's right - SCIENCE! Now, science also tells you that most likely (we're talking pretty much 100% here, not 50-50) there is no super being such as your gods. They're in your head, mate, and they're there because you WANT them to be there, not because they actually exist. Pat, keep up the good work. Maybe one day human kind will stop being so bloody ignorant and embrace logic, reason and science more, and the wonderful enlightenment that comes with it.
Get your facts right Tony A about the jews and their movements and the actual movement of zionism, i agree with Richard on this, and im an theist. Im sure what pat gets, nick griffin also gets the same treatment, if you actively sought out yourself to be an instigator rather than a mediator and or harmonizer, your going to be self imposed into exile which you've just created. Also dont think for a second that it only applies to militant athiests, it goes for thuggish nazis, anger touting minor jihadists and trollers.
Well, Richard, I am a 'militant atheist' and let me tell you that through the cruel lessons of history the Israelis have learned that if they relax for just a milisecond there are plenty of religious maniacs in countries surrounding them that would blow them skyhigh. If I were a Jew, which I am not, I would be just as defensive. Unfortunately there is no alternative. As for "Pat Condell stepping out of his home and embracing it all" have you read the hundreds of ghastly death threats on his website? Pat's only weapons are his intelligent, realistic observations; his opponents seem to prefer foul abuse and suicide belts
I myself am an Agnostic, but you have to understand that Condell is a feckless and grossly inappropriate war monger, his material is used by extremists to de-harmonize the delicate integration of Britain. Quite frankly, he should stop reading newspaper clippings, subversive commentary and step out of his home and embrace it all, rather than play the grumpy old man, which is quite frankly getting old quick!. Oh yes and a comment to Robert Stevens about Bill Maher; the gentleman is a self hating Jew, its a part of his character, you can tell by his staunch support for Israel, any militant atheist would tell you that a state such as that shouldn't exist. You could say that Pat Condell is to militant atheism, what Bill O'Reilly is to the Republicans. Let me end with this quote..... "All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree." - Albert Einstein
Regarding religion vs science: all you have to do is think about how you came across this comment (probably reading it on your computer). Science is what brought you the enormous body of knowledge that has made possible such complex things as computers. The very same body of knowledge is telling us that gods, heaven and hell, jesus walking on water etc etc is nothing but pure fantasy and bronze age myths. What concrete evidence has religion and beliefs brought? Nothing. So, it's your choice - either you realise the beauty of science and enjoy the ride, OR you believe in what religious books tell you, in which case you also have to tell yourself that your mobile phone doesn't work, it doesn't even exist, because science is wrong! Pretty obvious which way to go if you are interested in the truth, and which way to go if you like to live a lie. Cheers! :)
The people who disagree with pat do so because they will have to admit that loved ones who've passed away will never be seen again. religion is all they have to cling on to.It's understandable they think of an afterlife and force themselves into believing in God. However....think of the talking snake...it's stupid...isn't it...as is the rest of the bible and other religious books.Think of peasant men sitting around a campfire in the desert telling each other tales!....search for Mormons..read about them...absolute drivel...you won't believe what they believe..their whole doctrine is the product of a twisted mind. The person who kicked it all off was well known for telling the most incredible tall stories..he believed that jesus visited North America and also that their underwear is magic and will potect them...honest...I thought it was a Monty python sketch...you think I'm Kidding...search and read....it's a bit frightening really to think that otherwise normal people can be hypnotised by these 'Damaged' people and devote their whole lives to a complete load of nonesense.....There should be a law against it like some of the other crazy cults that rob peoples minds..
Pat Condell himself is 'long overdue'. WHY did I have to become 72 years old before his YouTube videos appeared!?!? THE most rational voice in public life today!!! It is absolutely essential that Pat appear with Bill Maher ASAP!
I would like to meet Pat one day and shake his hand. He brilliantly puts into words exactly how I have felt about religion for a long time now, and I fully agree when he says "if a persons personal beliefs help them through life, great." he makes it clear that he has no problem with that. Its the people who take it to the exteme and shape their lives, and try to make others shape their lives around religion and take offence at anyone who might disagree.
Refused to attend a christening the other day...got it in the neck but my conscience is clear. To bless a pair of 6 month-old twins in the name of a god is, frankly, child-abuse. I understand there is now an organization or, at least, a movement to establish in churches a facility for enlightened adults to be 'de-baptised'...what a good idea.
Pat Condell is a NECESSITY for all decent people. As for the indecent ones -- fascists, Bush Republicans, christians, TV preachers, ad nauseum -- well, their real necessity is piano wire, around their ignorant, ruinous necks! At this point (here in the american south -- sorry to bring up the repulsive subject), there would be no escape from the religious insanity, except for Pat Condell. "Islam is not the problem. Religion is the problem." - Pat Condell As MY own personal Sunday ritual (no clothing comparison required!), I watch all of the Pat Condell videos which confirms my belief in decency, sanity and ... well, you know, all of the things that Mr. Condell stands for.
Could it be arranged tha pat Condell could have a television debate with Shirley phelps broadcast here and in America...it would be fabulous to watch..failing that...would any Muslim ,Christian or Jewish spokesperson dare to face Pat in open debate on TV....I think not..and why not?....well....would you throw yourself into a paper shredder???
What a sensible man...more intelligence in his little finger than all the dubious cardinals, bishops, priests, mullahs, imams, rabbis and effing popes put together.
pat condell speaks without knowledge and if you want an example of something he siad that was wrong how about all saudi's are mentally ill. Yeah good ol pat tarring a whole country with his uneducated drivel.
Anonymous, please give an example of something Pat says which is wrong. He is just so right! You feel offended because you have been brainwashed into not thinking for yourself, but believe in midevel stories about people (Muhammad etc) which probably never existed anyway. Religion is stupidity and deserves no respect what so ever.
Very clever man, who speaks the way i feel about all religion; A doctrine for weak, feeble minded sheep who are afraid of death and who will kill as many innocent people as possible trying to prove to us that there is a god.
Pat's a wonder, the article should have been longer. It might have been had you taken out the fucking annoying averts!
Pat's a wonder, the article should have been longer. I might have been had you taken out the fucking annoying averts!
Anonymous it is easy to claim that somebody is lying but if you don't back your accusation with examples then your claim is as empty as the claims made by your religion. Peace, especially to those who shout liar without justification.
Anonymous, Pat does not come across as an angry man to me, as for old, I will be corrected but I believe Pat is in his mid fifties if you think that's old I have to assume you are very young and as such your youth reflects your experience...or lack of. How you can accuse him of telling lies is quite incredible. To disagree with him is one thing but to accuse him of being a liar is ridiculus and says more about you than anything else. Why not post some information to back up your accusation? I wont hold my breath....
Remember: attack Islam, not Muslims. The latter can't help it if they were born into an ideology and have it pushed on them by their parents. The religion is fair game and should be awarded the same respect we give to Nazism.
Dear Pat. Please never stop doing what you do. Please. You do it so well, and it is so necessary. Thank you very much.
Excellent work Pat! Islam is a politically cancerous ideology that has a parasitical nature.Pat is a breath of fresh air in the sick room of political correctness.
The notion, "we're all going to die" is more than a little disconcerting, so naturally there's a predisposition to accept some comforting illusion. And religions are tripping over themselves to fill that need. Specifically, going to Heaven (assuming you've spent half your life on your knees staring at the ceiling) or some kind of complicated reincarnation. Sorry to break it to you so brutally mug-punters, but these are myths for the weak-minded that canâ€™t handle mortality. When you draw your last breath, it's "Game Over". Get used to it. Face it, who but a gullible, two-dimensional rube would swallow that pernicious religious claptrap for one second? Answered my own question methinks. Only by rejecting all religious do you proclaim yourself a free-thinker.
Pat Condell is spot on. Religion is the ultimate form of wishful thinking. It also is the ultimate tool for keeping people mentally enslaved. Pat humorously expresses what a lot of people are thinking but have kept to themselves for fear of religious bullying. Keep it up!
in conclusion i think pat is an old angry man with a serious lack of knowledge who is probably suffering from chronic depression because quite clearly if anyone actually looks in to his aquisation its all a bunch of lies. he is an sad man with a dictionary picking out every bad word out of it and using it to describe well established religions. to be honest i think he is the one who is suffering from a mental illness. please do your research and make sure they are from reliable resources. i just cannot believe a mature man of pats age can accuse religions of being as he described with such a small knowledge base, i mean come on he the guy has not got a clue and i cant believe people are actually agreeing with him.
pat does not have a clue about half the things he says. he is accusing religions of things which do not exist. i laugh at his videos not with him. im am amused at the lack of knowledge he is basing his arguements on. islam does not in any way promote woman beating or child abuse and to be honest if pat does his research (thats if he can read) he would not in a single book find any evidence of that. in conclusion i laugh at pat and his ignorance towards the whole topic and i also feel sorry at the fact that he doesnt really no anything and i bet he is being laughed at by alot of people with even the slightest bit of knowledge about any religion. and to the people that are agreeing with him you also do not have any real evidence to support his stupidness. all i can say is "god bless pat"