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  • North versus South

  • By Alan Rutter and Peter Watts


  • Night out
    North
    Comedy venue
    Downstairs at the King’s Head in Crouch End. A viciously low-ceilinged venue under a now-revamped boozer, with a consistently high standard of comics.
    Club
    Canvas. This huge venue (formerly Bagleys) is a great space for one-off parties, mini-festivals, and the weekly rollerdisco sessions. King’s Cross is where it’s at.
    Venue
    KOKO. Following a £5 million revamp, what was once the Camden Palace is now a state-of-the-art gig venue. It used to be a Victorian theatre, so it’s hosted everyone from Charlie Chaplin to Madonna. Ha!

    South
    Comedy venue
    Banana Cabaret at The Bedford. Gets top-name comedians, and it’s ten times bigger than the King’s Head.
    Club
    Ministry of Sound. This legendary club-turned-megabrand has rediscovered a sense of direction with the likes of its power-packed new Friday nighter, Switch. Yet another excuse to visit Elephant & Castle.
    Venue
    Brixton Academy. Still the venue that every live act visiting London wants to play. Also, its art deco interior is where the video for Billy Ocean’s ‘When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going’ was filmed.

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    Politico
    North
    Top liberal Thomas Paine began writing ‘The Rights of Man’ in a room above the Angel Inn on Upper Street. For doing so – and even though he’d already invented the smokeless candle – Paine was denounced in Parliament and threatened with arrest, until Lambeth lad William Blake advised him to flee
    the country.

    South
    Blackheath-born suffragette Emily Davison served nine prison sentences. She also hid in the House of Commons broom cupboard on census night in 1911 in a bid to have the House recorded as her home address – a memorial to her has since been placed there. Her politicking ended at the 1913 Derby, when she died running in front of the king’s horse.

    North wins!

    Power
    North
    Government
    Easy one. The House of Commons and Number 10. Plus the secret bunker under Whitehall.
    Spies
    MI5 is based in Thames House, on the north side of Lambeth Bridge. It’s responsible for the defence of the nation.

    South
    Government
    Forget Number 10 – it’s City Hall that matters. Ken is far more powerful in London than Blair will ever be.
    Spies
    MI6 on the south side – so important that it’s already been attacked with rockets.

    South wins!

    Quote
    North
    ‘The fields from Islington to Marybone/To Primrose Hill
    and Saint John’s Wood/Were builded over with pillars of gold/And there Jeruslalem’s pillars stood.’ William Blake, ‘Jerusalem’.

    South
    ‘The south remains relatively unknown to other Londoners, except as a source of disquiet… the northern bank has been “privatised”.
    To the south, however, there is interchange and animation.’ Peter Ackroyd, ‘London: The Biography’.

    North wins!

    Shopping
    North
    Record shop
    Pure Groove. This little store on the Holloway Road made its name selling electro house, but branched out into indie rock to become one of the best places in London to buy seven-inches from the hottest new bands.
    Shopping centre
    When it was built in 1976, Brent Cross was the largest enclosed shopping centre in the UK. It has 110 stores, and pioneered the concept of late-opening.
    Department store
    Selfridges, the shop that coined the phrase ‘The customer is always right.’

    South
    Record shop
    Beanos. With four floors of rock, hip hop, house and soul, this claims to be the ‘biggest secondhand record store in the world’. And any place that can bring that accolade to Croydon deserves respect.
    Shopping centre
    Worship at the new retail cathedral. With 330 shops, Bluewater rightly touts itself as ‘the most innovative and exciting shopping and leisure centre in Europe today’. So it’s in Kent? We’re still having it.
    Department store
    People may browse in Selfridges, but when you want to do actual shopping you can’t go wrong with Debenhams in Croydon. It even does flowers.

    South wins!

    Sport
    North
    Sporting arena
    Lord’s. The home of the Marylebone Cricket Club (since 1814) is the home of cricket. What more do you want?
    Football Team
    Arsenal FC (13 titles, ten FA Cups and four other trophies).

    South
    Sporting arena
    The Oval. Granted, Lord’s is more iconic in cricketing circles, and the Oval has the dubious honour of being the site of England’s first defeat by the Australians in 1882. On the other hand, the Oval was where Kevin Pietersen hit the 158 that won back the Ashes, so that’s the argument done with.
    Football team
    Millwall FC: Second Division champions, 1987-88 season. But if you want to have a chat about who’s ‘better’, pop down to the new Den next Saturday afternoon and we’ll discuss it.

    North wins!

    Stats
    North
    Tallest building
    Canary Wharf, 235m
    Population
    2,431,000 (2001 census).
    Secondary school
    Henrietta Barnett School for girls and St Michael’s Catholic Grammar School are among the top 20 in the country for GCSE grades. Your kids won’t get in, but it’s still nice to know.

    South
    Tallest building
    Guy’s Tower, Guy’s Hospital, 143m.
    Population
    2,497,000.
    Secondary school
    The fantastically named Tiffin Girls’ School and the Nonsuch High School for Girls. Though both sound like they could be very good at Quidditch, neither ranks higher in the league tables than their posh northern counterparts.

    North wins!

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11 comments

  1. Posted by Tim Brown on 20 May 2009 11:02

    I'm a north london person BUT how on earth can ANAM on Chapel Market Street be highlighted as best bar is beyond me? I know the place and i can't see how this title can be justified.

  2. Posted by ArchieMac on 12 May 2009 16:40

    Actually, I reckon there are FIVE Londons. The City itself, and Westminster, are their own bit. Central London doesn't belong to north, south, east or west.

  3. Posted by ArchieMac on 12 May 2009 13:34

    The whole north v south debate is extremely silly anyway. There are four Londons, not two. 'North London' just means places like Camden, Islington, Hampstead etc. West London is very different to North London and so, of course, is the East End. The rivalry between East and West London is probably more important than the rivalry between north and south.

  4. Posted by Chris on 07 May 2009 13:15

    Pure Groove moved from Holloway Road to near Smithfield Market some time ago

  5. Posted by davey G on 06 Sep 2007 11:42

    i do apologise, its a stong subject and i get all carried away with it!
    Bee you a legend and a North london!!!
    you cant beat that!

  6. Posted by Bella on 06 Sep 2007 11:40

    I was talking to DEE- the person who commented below! I'm on north side!

  7. Posted by Davey G on 06 Sep 2007 11:28

    Well Bee you where a true North Londerer Born and Breed you might understand,
    @@@K explaining if you dont know!
    NORTH NORTH NORTH NORTH NORTH NORTH
    See ya later!

  8. Posted by Bella on 06 Sep 2007 11:23

    I think they mean north of the river Dee and no-one asked you!

  9. Posted by Davey G on 06 Sep 2007 11:20

    North all day you
    donuts
    anywhere north of the river?
    jesus no love lost there,

  10. Posted by Speekz on 21 May 2007 15:05

    south is better all day..

  11. Posted by DEE on 08 Jan 2007 20:57

    You say that North wins but some of the places you mentioned are not even in North London such as St. Paul's cathedral which is in the East and Percy Passage which is London W1. Me personally, I prefer South London. Camden can't beat Clapham or Battersea and if you ask me Islington is a dump.

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