Terminator Salvation (12A)

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Time Out says

Tue Jun 2 2009

There’s a chase scene half way through ‘Terminator Salvation’ that rivals anything in the series. A breathlessly paced, pulse-pounding desert escape, it lasts about five minutes and single-handedly earns the movie an extra star as sleek robotic motorcycles pursue our heroes, who are fleeing in an armour-plated pickup.

But stretching interminably on either side of this set piece is an ideas wasteland more barren than any of the blasted post-apocalyptic landscapes in the movie. ‘Terminator Salvation’ isn’t the gritty, futuristic blitzkrieg for which fans of the first two films have been salivating. It isn’t even the slick, entertaining Hollywood blockbuster most were realistically expecting. It is a shambolic, deafening, intelligence-insulting mess, a crushing failure on almost all counts.

It’s the year 2018. Christian Bale (whose on-set ballistics seem even more laughable in context) plays John Connor, self-prophesied leader of the human resistance against Skynet, the machine which rules the planet following a nuclear apocalypse. Sam Worthington plays Marcus Wright, a former Death Row inmate who harbours a dark secret.

The plot comes straight from the ‘hey, wouldn’t it be cool if…’ school of screenwriting: scenes and incidents slam into one another with no logical context or motivation. The characters are neutral: Bale growls and frowns, Worthington frowns and pouts, while other grime-spattered actors wander on screen, look perplexed, and are quickly forgotten. For kids under 14, or extremely undemanding adults, ‘Terminator Salvation’ might just pass muster as a temporary, forgettable Friday night distraction. But for fans of the first two movies, this is a disappointment of ‘Phantom Menace’ proportions.
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Fri Jun 5, 2009

Duration:

115 mins

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GARFOOLS

What is done now is that a screenplay is made that satisfies execs enough. A director is sourced and vfx crew is sourced...blahblah actors/ other crews. Whatever. What is wrong? They take good and bad apples and set them on a rotten tree. No one cares enough to sort out their mistakes. What mistakes? Any new ideas hung on an old tired event line(standard plotline) fail completely. They seem added on while the crud train rolls on. Thats whats wrong with the story/plot. Next:interactions(ie dialogues/combats) dialogues should stem from the plot because the plot is poor, the dialogue is too. Combat: giant terminator cant kill its target, why? The crap plot is bad and too rigid, plus the director uses it to create tension, it does in respect of logic being strained.Combat:bike chase, same thing applies. Combat:T800 takes out Tmarcus with one heart punch, heart punches john conner 20 metres, connor ok. (plus deciding its better to throw him about instead of just kill him.Same thing applies, crap and illiogical. rewrite needed. actions like these litter the movie and are the sysmptoms of 'franchise sickness' If you base a films success on its action, then please, please obey the logic of your created world, machines should be not made to miss or act illogically to create tension, find a way around by writing better scripts and stop wasting good cg/actors/equipment with bad direction and plot. End of.

Thomas Noctor

This felt more like Transformers than Terminator. Very bad and not true to the original plot. Best actor was the CGI Arnie. As a huge Terminator fan this was a massive let down. First three were class.

Rhoops

Been looking forward tothis moviewfor 20 years, and what happens...cliche ridden hollywood drivel. The contirved dramatic tension between the characters is sub moronic in its unreality. I gave up about half way through, I can enter a far more imaginative and realistic post apocalyptic world in Fallout 3 thanks.

Connor

Peter...you can get that bad taste out of your mouth by not talking crap! A good movie I thought.

Chuggy

Sorry but this is a movie painfully unaware of it's own premise. Robots from the future are hunting down people who will bother them later. I kept waiting for the film to realize that... sadly, it never did. Well, okay, Kyle Reese was on the hit list. Which means that the Skynet of the present (in the future) knows that Reese will cause trouble (in the past) by going back in time and fathering John Connor, who in this movie seems to be a low level staffer, but who is, I'm told, going to save humankind (further in the future... or maybe in the past). So why doesn't Skynet just send a Terminator back to kill Reese's grandfather in WW2 or something (maybe they did or will do when they get around to it)? And if Skynet does have time travel capability, why fight the resistance with the old, clunk-a-naters? Why not send their best-o-naters (that they make in the future) back in time to stomp out the resistance (which will be lead by that genius John Connor at some point)? And if TIME TRAVEL is the key, why isn't JC (that's John Connor) more interested in looking for the time machine? I kept waiting to see THAT in this film. I mean, so what if Skynet kills Reese... It's only a problem if time travel works like it does in Back to the Future, then JC will disappear as the past is changed and he ceases to have ever existed. But if we're not dealing with BTTF time travel effects, he can find the time machine and go back in time and stop Reese from being killed. But if Terminator time travel works like it does in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, then JC can just promise to invent a mega-powerful killer robot later, send it back in time to just that moment and... poof, it suddenly appears. Using that system, the he could have a stud farm of killer robot babes all to himself. And why not, really? But really, the dirty little secret to the Terminator franchise is this: John Connor will ultimately realize that if he DOES succeed in stopping Skynet from unleashing Judgement Day, then that will prevent him from ever being born. So it's in his own best interests to help Skynet along to that point even if it means everyone dies. Finally, I think this movie should have ended with John Connor being turned into a cyborg. Wouldn't that have been a twist...??

Bobby

THEY LET YOU REVIEW MOVIES? LOL...HOPE THE RIDE ON THE BANDWAGON ISN'T TOO BUMPY

Evan Annelias

As a diehard Terminator fan, the movie was scrap metal. But as an occasional action flick fan, this movie wasn't all that bad. McGee was able to cover up the lack of a decent story with extremely well done CGI, including new robots that we had only heard of, and an extremely well done chase in the middle of the desert with Kyle Reese and Marcus Wright. At the very least I suggest you could see the movie for Sam Worthington. The void left my Arnie was , in my opinion filled by the performance of Sam. Christian Bale fans may be a bit dissapointed (as I was), but he does a good job considering the (Very) less number of lines that he had in the movie. Simply put, the movie kind of clears the the bad taste that T3 left in my mouth, but it come nowhere close to the ones by Cameron.

Andy S

Really don't know what the negativity is about. I've loved the first 2 films since 1991 and this was a great return to form after the mostly awful T3 (well, it wasn't that bad). Great ideas and loads of spooky Terminators about aswell, plus the action scenes were sunning. The people who hated this...what were they expecting? Loads of cool references as well, esp the GNR song, and the ending mirroered the great T2 finale.

Andy S

Really don't know what the negativity is about. I've loved the first 2 films since 1991 and this was a great return to form after the mostly awful T3 (well, it wasn't that bad). Great ideas and loads of spooky Terminators about aswell, plus the action scenes were sunning. The people who hated this...what were they expecting? Loads of cool references as well, esp the GNR song, and the ending mirroered the great T2 finale.

shaun

Great film all action. Clearly setting up the next film which should then complete the franchise.

Woodsy

I had been looking forward to seeing this film for ages. As a huge fan of the originsal 2 movies, and thinking that the third was average, I expected more from this latest installment. What a fool I was! This film not only insults our intelligence as an audience by literally throwing together a pile of so called 'wouldn't it be cool if this happened in a Terminator film...' scenarios, but it fails miserable where the other films succeed in that one does not care what happens to any of the characters. Where's the humour? Where's the constant impending doom? Where's the story? The only bright light in this entire film is Sam Worthington's performance as Marcus, however the script dictates that, unlike the other Terminator films, you don't really care if he ends up on the metal scrap yard at the end. Save your money by not buying an over priced cinema ticket and go rent out the originals.

Oliver

The film was ok/pretty good, somewhere in between the two. Very different kind of film to the first 2 (im going to ignore no. 3) The story is ok, the characters are ok but lacking in the depth department a little, some good scenes that terminator fans will like, a would have prefered a little less cgi on the terminators i think. But yeah, over all its enjoyable, not great by any standards but is definantly worth a watch of you are a fan of the series.

anthony

i thought this film was brilliant much better than T3 and on par with the 1st 2 films, it was non stop action and has carried on the franchise in a way in which i cant wait for the next film, the cameo from cgi arnie was awesome aswell, hope he appears again in the next film theres a lot they can carry on with this story, if your a fan of the terminator or arnie or christian bale you'll think this film is gr8!

anthony

i thought this film was brilliant much better than T3 and on par with the 1st 2 films, it was non stop action and has carried on the franchise in a way in which i cant wait for the next film, the cameo from cgi arnie was awesome aswell, hope he appears again in the next film theres a lot they can carry on with this story, if your a fan of the terminator or arnie or christian bale you'll think this film is gr8!

Matt

I enjoyed this film from start to finish. It's full of action and awesome special effects, but more than that it is a drama of humanity and hope. I would have liked to give this film four stars, but on reflection I do feel that the "twist" relies on rather stretched explanations of the earlier events of the film (e.g. why wasn't the secret mission accomplished earlier in a more direct manner? why did it have to entail such huge risk?). It would also have been nice to have more of a build-up to the opening scenes. I'm not sure if this is fair as these thoughts didn't occur to me while I was watching the film last night:- earlier this morning I was planning on giving the film four stars. But three stars it shall have, because there are elements of the film which are not watertight in terms of believability, on careful reflection. I should add that I've never bought into the whole time-travel thing, which gets a reference in the film, and that may make my judgement of this film unfairly critical. I can't understand how the official reviewers could give this film a mere 2 stars, and even then attributing one of them to a chase scene, and then give 3 stars to the abysmal Drag Me To Hell. It really makes me wonder whether I can get any worthwhile guidance from the official reviews at all. Comparing this film to Phantom Menace is a travesty. Semi-Spoiler alert:- this is an uplifting story of hope and humanity and explores the premise of logic versus instinct. Ultimately it is the story of the [moral] salvation of one man, rather than the salvation of humanity as a whole. Also, there's something inherently hilarious about seeing the current governor of California in the buff in a contemporary film, even if he doesn't say much.

Peter

I yawned, I laughed, I cried, I changed some pop corn into wind, I drank some soda - nice soda I must say. The noise from the film woke me up at about half way. Please please please please do not see this film. I came out feeling dirty and slightly used. Can someone please tell me how i can get this bad taste out of my mouth....

BIOSONIC BLITZ

Fter reading a lot of negative reviews I went into see this film out of boredom with little expectation and I must admit I was pleasantly surprised! Sure it isn't a patch on the first two films, but if you go into it thinking "medium budget spin off movie" you will probably enjoy it, it has a reasonable amount of action, some clever new robots and a nice, although not unexpected, twist. "Whats the difference between us and the machines? Its the human heart."

G Mitch

If the once illustrious saga is to continue in this vein it definitely needs to be terminated forthwith!

Karen

I think Steve Crouch played brilliantly against Andora if he didnt have the training kicking cabbages he would never be as good. I also think they needed a new bubble lawn mower for the wembley pitch

Karen

I think Steve Crouch played brilliantly against Andora if he didnt have the training kicking cabbages he would never be as good. I also think they needed a new bubble lawn mower for the wembley pitch

Margret

I brought a pair of slippers for my friend heather and only 1 turned up. I think this is an outrage has she legally got a leg to stand on?

Margret

I brought a pair of slippers for my friend heather and only 1 turned up. I think this is an outrage has she legally got a leg to stand on?

Hugh Janeus

Me and my wife went to see the film and i brought a bucket of popcorn and i couldnt help realise how big my first piece of pepcorn was i was hugely dissapointed that it wasnt 10mmx10mm has anyone else experienced these inconvienices?

Hugh Janeus

Me and my wife went to see the film and i brought a bucket of popcorn and i couldnt help realise how big my first piece of pepcorn was i was hugely dissapointed that it wasnt 10mmx10mm has anyone else experienced these inconvienices?

Sally

Can you please stop mentioning bubble lawn mowers! this is getting out of hand this is a serious film review webstie. but i did see that cabbage with the small turpins and i have to say that cabbage was awfully green!

Sally

Can you please stop mentioning bubble lawn mowers! this is getting out of hand this is a serious film review webstie. but i did see that cabbage with the small turpins and i have to say that cabbage was awfully green!

Melvin B

That cabbage was massive! Best top quality cabbage i have seen in ages. Didnt see the bubble lawn mower though.. my 18 year old son has a collection of bubble lawn mowers and he didnt see it either

Melvin B

That cabbage was massive! Best top quality cabbage i have seen in ages. Didnt see the bubble lawn mower though.. my 18 year old son has a collection of bubble lawn mowers and he didnt see it either

Maureen

I thoght the scene with the bubble lawn mower was the most exciting thing i have seen in a long time. Did you see the size of that cabbage?!?!

Maureen

I thoght the scene with the bubble lawn mower was the most exciting thing i have seen in a long time. Did you see the size of that cabbage?!?!

stephen hodges

well this film is fantastic from start to finish and is worth all 5 stars, ok the arnie scene aint the best but that is cgi for you, i would defo buy this on blu rey when comes out as it is a film i could watch again and again.

stephen hodges

well this film is fantastic from start to finish and is worth all 5 stars, ok the arnie scene aint the best but that is cgi for you, i would defo buy this on blu rey when comes out as it is a film i could watch again and again.

n

If anything good was to come out of this film it's Sam Worthington. Bale has been better in other movies.

N

After seeing the first Terminator a few days before I was disappointed with this film and what it lacked from the orignal. The movie trailer sums up the first hour or so of the film. Stand out lines from the first two films were repeated and made to sound cheesy. Cast was poor, possibly too many to be interested in. Effects were McG Charlie's Angels styled and failed to impress - wasted budget. Where the film does start to pick up, it fails to sustain any interest. Too many strong elements from first 2 films only to be weakend and made laughable in this one. I've never seen the point in taking original 15-18 cert movies and creating a watered-down sequel to appeal to a wider audience. We don't want the toy, DVD extras or the f**king computer game. Stick to making a good movie.

Mr V

Crap, Crap, Crap & Crap!!! Believe me 1 foot was out of the door 15 minutes in, but for the money I spent, I had to stay. The acting was poor, for all the reports of Bale throwing tantrums on set, I thought it would be an Ocar performance! Story was weak and at times had such apredictable outcome. The amount of times I rolled my eyes!!! This was in my oppinion is a straight to DVD movie if not Sci-Fi channel or Channel 5 drama movie. The only part I tip my hat to is when Arnie or should I say CGI Arnie made an appearance that took me by surprise. Not the right director for such an iconic brand. 1 star for seeing a young Arnie and advancement in CGI.

Matthew Holmes

What a stupid review. T4 was a great, solid sci-fi action film - as it should've been. Honestly, I wonder if these 'critics' have seen the same film I have, because what I saw was A-grade fun and a great addition to the Terminator mythology. I haven't had such a blast at the movies since Lor of the Rings. People need to embrace change ans leave their petty prejudices at the door. This film rocks. Well done McG, Bale and Worthington. You did this Terminator fan proud.

Matthew Holmes

What a stupid review. T4 was a great, solid sci-fi action film - as it should've been. Honestly, I wonder if these 'critics' have seen the same film I have, because what I saw was A-grade fun and a great addition to the Terminator mythology. I haven't had such a blast at the movies since Lor of the Rings. People need to embrace change ans leave their petty prejudices at the door. This film rocks. Well done McG, Bale and Worthington. You did this Terminator fan proud.

Oscar the Grouch

You will enjoy this movie if you are willing to forgive the points below. 1)If a fight sequence is happening by cutting to a new scene allows us to forget about the consequences when we return to that scene. 2)Further amendment:Forget about the laws of physics. 3)If a Terminator grabs you the quickest way to kill a human is apparently throwing it against a wall out of arms reach. 4)Lazy throwbacks to the first movie 'Ill be back' and 'come with me if you want to live' which cheapen the scenes as it's not meant to be tongue in cheek... is it? 5)Cheap mirrored ending of the 2nd film, but instead of freezing he 'hot freezes' him.... creative! 6)Humans can fight metal killing machines for minutes bare knuckled and stand their ground. Oh god, I could go on but I give up. Just go and see it for yourself. If you don't ming logic holes you'll love it. evenything aside I was entertained, just disappointed. But hey WTF was I expecting from that Charlies Angels muppet McG?

Louisa

Oh come on, Time Out gave the Hanna Montanna film three stars. Enough said .../

agmar

T1 and T2 are among the best action films of all time, which makes this incoherent wasteland of a film all the more disappointing. So little of this film makes any sense at all, great swathes of Terminator canon were ignored in favour of endless aspolsions-for-no-reason. and the plucky baseline meme is utterly sickening here. 'We are better than machine because we have wuv!' Gimmie a break...

mark smith

People who slag this movie off need to remember it's not the 1980's or the 1990's. Film making and special effects have moved on. I admit James Cameron's magic was not there but T4 is still a great movie for this fast paced world we live in these days. There is a stunning chase scene great visuals explosions and loads of action with a good actor what more do you expect ????

Luke Curtis

I really can't agree with one single line in the review, hugely enjoyable and the film flew by, always a sign of a good film for me, it never let up for a minute.

Rory

This was Fantastic heartstoping tense pulseing fun it was one of the best film of 2009!

Rory

This was Fantastic heartstoping tense pulseing fun it was one of the best film of 2009!

Ross B

Great movie - ok, as most reviews state, it's obviously not as good as the first 2 movies in the franchise, but what is one of it's strongest points is that it's completely diferent. It's not like Terminator 3 which is basically a re-hash of 2, it's future setting gives it a fresh and diferent feel. Infact this movie wipes the floor with the terrible T3, and any fan of the series will enjoy seeing Kyle Reese and the future he described to Sarah in the first movie presented stylishly before their eyes. If i was gonna rate the movies out of 10....T1 - 10, T2 - 9, T3 - 4, this new one....T4 - 8.

John

Great Film, i liked the fact it was dark like Terminator 1, the other 2 are a bit chessy at times even though Judgement day is good, I think this is the closest to the quality of the first film, cant wait to see another one!

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