Kelis interview: ‘I'm a lot less precious than people want me to be’
The R&B superstar is back with a soulful new album and a second career in the kitchen. We met her in London to get a taste
Wed Apr 23 2014
© Olivia Malone
Kelis Rogers’s 2003 mega-hit ‘Milkshake’ still brings boys and girls to the yard, but she has long moved on. After qualifying with Le Cordon Bleu in 2010, she’s now as much a chef as an R&B superstar, with her own cooking show called ‘Saucy & Sweet’ on the Cooking Channel and a recipe book in the pipeline too. But she’s also returned to music with a funky, retro soul-influenced new album – recorded live with indie genius Dave Sitek. Appropriately, it’s called ‘Food’.
I meet Kelis at lunchtime in a Shoreditch hotel, while she’s rehearsing to dish up ‘Food’ around the world. Ferociously intelligent and confident, she’s also enthusiastic and friendly – except for one get-with-the-programme glare when the word ‘milkshake’ comes up. Warning: don’t read this interview on an empty stomach.
‘Jerk Ribs’, ‘Breakfast’, ‘Friday Fish Fry’… The track list for ‘Food’ reads like a menu.
‘Funnily enough, I didn’t even come up with most of the titles: they were just working titles, then I figured those names were as good as any. “Jerk Ribs” in particular: I actually made jerk ribs that day for the whole band. Everyone was silent for a good 20 minutes, just eating these ribs, then we ended up calling the track “Jerk Ribs”.’
What’s the connection between food and music?
‘If you think about every celebration, whether it’s a birthday or a wedding or a graduation, if it’s a good party there’s usually food and music. I’m pleased with myself for having chosen two professions that exemplify celebration. For me, they’re both creative outlets – but they actually take very different parts of the heart and mind. Music is very introspective, and a lot more intellectual, in the sense that you have to be focused. Whereas with food, it’s very much about the present. When you’re in a kitchen, everything else goes away.’
In 2012 you were working on a minimal dance album with Skream. Now you’ve made a soul record. What happened?
‘I kind of lost interest. Well, I don’t know if that’s really the right phrase, but I sort of abandoned it. I no longer felt the need to make that record, and it’s hard for me to go back to things. There are tons of things I’ve written that you’ll never hear: that’s just how it works.’
Was it a different experience recording live with a band?
‘Yeah, I guess so, but my process is always the same. I think I’m a lot less precious than people want me to be. I don’t really care, to be honest. Not to sound crass, but I don’t think that much about stuff, and I don’t think I’m that sensitive. I feel like I’m always myself in whatever instance or whatever realm I’m in – all of the other things are really just logistical.’
How’s the live show?
‘I’m still kind of looking at it, but I will bring out the horn section: the horns are really important!’
And finally, what would be your last meal?
‘Puerto Ricans eat a dish called chicharrón de pernil. It’s a sort of roasted pork thing, and it’s got this crispy skin that’s literally the best thing that ever happened to the world, as far as I’m concerned.’
- Critics choice
Elbow, Madness, Manic Street Preachers, Kelis, Anna Calvi, Laura Mvula, Temples, Stealing Sheep + more. Normally ill-served when it comes to fun in fields, south-east London got its own back in 2014 with the first instalment of this new two-day music festival. It’s back for 2015, with a dad-friendly line-up of mature indie bands (Elbow, Madness, the Manics) plus a trio of cool female singer-songwriters (Kelis, Anna Calvi and Laura Mvula) and a second stage booked by Heavenly Records. More music will be announced soon, including a stage booked by Gilles Peterson, who put together a tasty leftfield line-ups last year. There’s an equal emphasis on food again too, including a food village featuring live cooking demonstrations and a 'Chef's Club', and more family-friendly activities. Plus – new this year – get freaked out in a magic tent hosted by Dynamo.
Watch Kelis's 'Jerk Ribs' video
- Critics choice
Elbow, Madness, Manic Street Preachers, Kelis, Anna Calvi, Laura Mvula, Temples, Stealing Sheep + more. Normally ill-served when it comes to fun in fields, south-east London got its own back in 2014 with the first instalment of this new two-day music festival. It’s back for 2015, with a dad-friendly line-up of mature indie bands (Elbow, Madness, the Manics) plus a trio of cool female singer-songwriters (Kelis, Anna Calvi and Laura Mvula) and a second stage booked by Heavenly
Listen to Kelis' 'Food' on Spotify
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