31 reasons LA kicks New York's ass

Even though we could have stopped at the weather, we came up with 30 other reasons to settle this once and for all

Photograph: Jakob N. Layman
This is Santa Monica Beach. It looks like this in August, December, March—oh, and all those other months too.

In an epic battle between New York and Los Angeles, which city comes out on top? Honestly, we don't usually give it much thought, but the editors over at Time Out New York suggested we go head to head, so we're bringin' out the big guns. This list will destroy New York's list. And let it be known that half our staff moved here from New York, so a) we know what we're talking about and b) we're living proof that the West Coast is the best coast.

1. We would just be bad Angelenos if the weather weren't first on our list. Listen: anyone who says nice days are better when you've earned them after enduring a long miserable winter is just delusional. Nice days are nice days, period. And we have them all the damn time. Do you miss the fall colors? Take a day trip and get a face-full of fall foliage. What is Christmas with no snow? Um, you can see snow in the mountains from the beach—and you can be up in said mountains in under two hours. Save the "no pain, no gain" attitude for that 10k you're training for. In February. On the beach path.

2. People actually smile here. Manners, ever heard of 'em?

3. Our tourist traps aren't traps. They're actually nice places that locals like to visit too, like the Hollywood Bowl, Malibu and the Griffith Observatory. New Yorkers are inexplicably proud when they can say they've never visited the Statue of Liberty (a majorly important site in our country's history)—and never would.

4. Which would you rather wake up to in the morning? Birds singing or cars honking?

5. New York's gratuitous getaway is Atlantic City, a sad attempt at hedonistic tourism. LA's is Las Vegas, which wrote the hedonism manual.

6. LA's natural beauty. We're used to hearing that our city is just one big quilted network of suburbs, and that may be true, but the threads that hold that quilt together are trees and fauna and green space. Palms line the streets, we have canyons and hills and mountains covered in waterfalls and native plants. We don't need to corral 95 percent of our city's nature into parks surrounded by an otherwise concrete jungle.

7. Two words: medical marijuana.

8. Mexican food. Do we really need to elaborate here? Just for good measure: whatever kind of Mexican food you're craving (tlayudas, caldo de mariscos Veracruz style, brunch time tamales made by someone you wish was your abuelita, jicama con limon y chamoy from a street cart, life-changing mole, tacos from a truck—seriously, whatever you want), it's here in Los Angeles, it's authentic and chances are, it's cheap.

9. You get more bang for your buck here, especially when it comes to living space. We don't have to pay an entire month's salary for an 8x10 "apartment" with our toilet in our entryway just to be in a cool neighborhood. We can also afford to live alone (read: no creepy Craigslist roommates) if we want to. And in addition to more square footage per dollar, most of LA apartments have plentiful storage, big windows (you know, for all the sun) and—eat your hearts out, New Yorkers—outdoor space.

10. We don't humble-brag about how hard we have it in a weak ploy to get respect (or sympathy). Our quality of life is good here, and we're pretty pleased about it.

11. Farmers markets. Bigger, better, more plentiful, more often, all year long.

12. When you live in a city that's still evolving and growing (as opposed to a city that is chronically built out and claustrophobic), you can have any lifestyle or living situation you want. A live/work loft in a historic industrial building Downtown? Got it. Midcentury-modern in a Mid-City fourplex? Got that too. Or maybe a studio on the beach that fits you and all your boards comfortably? No problem. Rustic cabin in the canyons where you can stargaze from your balcony? Italian villa next to a colonial mansion next to a Spanish bungalow? We might not be able to afford it, but we've got that too. It's all here in LA.

13. In-N-Out.

14. Cockroaches, bedbugs and rats? Not really a thing here. Enjoy your infestations (and pricey exterminations).

15. A shopping trip to Ikea/Target/any grocery store isn't a harrowing day-long event here. Our errands are stress- and crowd-free, much like the rest of our lives.

16. We've already rubbed in the fact that our weather is unmatched, but we also know how to take advantage of it. We spend a lot of time outdoors—eating, drinking, hiking, pool partying, watching movies, going to concerts—year-round. We don't have to run on a treadmill if we don't want to. Even our schools are indoor-outdoor. Lucky kids.

17. Theme parks. They're everywhere, and they're fucking fun: Knotts Berry Farm, Universal Studios, Six Flags, oh, and only the happiest goddamn place on earth, Disneyland.

18. Maybe it's because we spend a lot of time in our cars, but radio rules here. We have three public stations boasting news, entertainment and cutting edge music. KCRW is widely known as one of the best NPR stations in the country, and is probably responsible for launching most of your favorite bands. And don't forget our college stations—KCSN, KXLU, KXSC—playing obscure gems, and uh, hello, 93.5 KDAY for back-in-the-day hip hop hits. Word to your mother.

19. We can go all year without turning on the heat or the air conditioning.

20. When New Yorkers get out of the city, it involves an escape plan. You need to find a car. You need to buy a ticket. You need to worry about weather. And you need to get the hell out, because you just can't take it anymore. When we leave LA, it's about having an adventure. Impulse trip to the desert? Beach day in San Diego? Wine tasting in Santa Barbara? We just go.

21. Though we may never pronounce Marina del Rey the same way after "The Californians," no one here actually talks like that. The Valley accent is just another overused (albeit funny) trope. At their best, we're annoyed by New York accents. At their worst, we wish we had subtitles (or better yet, a mute button).

22. Our sidewalks may be cracked, but they're not covered in rotting trash. And they don't smell like piss.

23. Personal space isn't a commodity here. Want to blast pump-up songs and sing along in your car on your way to work? Not so easy on the subway. Do you prefer a detached house to the thin, TMI walls you share with your neighbor? You don't need to cross state lines to find that here.

24. Movies are made here, and we're proud of it. Not only is "the industry" great for our city's economy, but it entertains and inspires the entire world.

25. Also, you're welcome for all that porn you watch.

26. When it comes to jazzy Jews, we've got New York beat by a landslide. Woody Allen? Consensual (maybe) but creepy (definitely). Jeff Goldblum? Timeless babe. They both play weekly live shows, but Woody's cheapest tickets are a whopping $110 a pop. Jeff offers up his musical stylings (and stylin' outfits, and little dances, and eccentric anecdotes) FOR FREE, every week, and sticks around post-show to mingle with the crowd.

27. We work to live. You live to work.

28. So maybe, true to stereotype, we are really into yoga and juice cleanses and staying fit. Go ahead and call that narcissism if you want, but we guarantee it's better than being cooped up in a city that prides itself on being stressed out. Looking better is nice, but feeling better is key.

29. Coachella may be a shitshow of idiots in neon and jorts, but those idiots come from all over the world to experience it. As far as music festivals go, it destroys Governor's Ball—which no one is traveling more than four hours to attend, please.

30. New York, you're so formal. We dress comfortably and casually to do almost anything. And then, bonus, it's all the more exciting and special when we do get fancy.

31. To borrow from our homegirls in the Valley: Whatever. We know New York has us beat on some things, and that's okay. Good for them. Thing is, they're usually too busy shitting on us to realize that we don't really care. We're pretty laid back, and confident in the fact that LA is an amazing city (see above). Now if you'll excuse us, we're heading to the beach.

See New York's response: 31 reasons New York kicks LA's ass

And then, our response to New York's response: 31 things New York got wrong about LA

Have your own reasons why LA kicks New York's ass? Share them in the comments section below.



Here is the Rock Bottom truth from a guy who has lived over 5 years on both coasts back to back. Originally from Toronto so I am in no way bias!

Lets simply do a little test here to see how great LA is Next to NYC.

Simply lets take NYC weather and ship it over to LA so that LA has the exact weather NYC does though out the year....You getting where I am going here LOL????

At this point when you actually stop to think about it...nothing in LA is better than NYC!

Freezing in your car to drive just to get milk for your Cheerios.

Everything is so spread out that in winter time you would not know people exist in LA.

No trips to the beach. Everything LA talks about is weather related. Take away the weather then is comes down to actual

things such as food, lifestyle, energy, people etc. NONE are better in LA, no joke.

Basically everything that LA claims is better actually simply revolves around weather. 

But the truth is if you did take New York weather to LA. NOTHING comes close, who ever said LA had better food is seriously smoking too much weed..getting high can make anything taste good, go try it lol. 

The only proud thing the have is a "fast food" establishment that they brag about in and out!! LMAO

You would actually have most people from LA move to NYC just so they can feel alive again.

New York is Quality with little to no hype. 

Los Angeles is all hype with the product it self being actually crap

Literally everything is better in NYC in this case.

Sometimes it just takes simplicity to figure these things out. So who ever said LA just has the weather and nothing else

is spot on and did the math!

Utsav G
Utsav G

I've lived in both the cities too. If NYC had LA's weather, it wouldn't make much difference, cuz the tall sky scrapers would block em anyway. What would you do on a sunny weather in NYC, go to the beach? You don't have a lot of outdoor activities is NYC. LA on the other hand, is the exact opposite. People don't work like dogs here, yet they manage to live a better life than most New Yorkers. You have better living space, clean environment, outdoor activities, and most of the people are nice and friendly. You got to be kidding me if you think they don't have good food in LA. Before I read this article, I was literally drooling, thinking about all the Mexican, Vietnamese food I used eat when I lived in LA. In NYC, once you are out of Manhattan, you really have nowhere to go, compared to LA, where you are surrounded by beach towns, and Vegas is only 4 hrs away. It's not like you have to always be in sunset blvd to have fun you know.

Serge W
Serge W

if you don't have a lot of money, New York is the shitiest place you can live, you have to work your ass off if you wanna survive, I lived there, and in LA what you pay for a 30sft studio you have a whole condo with pool and beautiful views in Los Angeles, and youre better paid in LA that's for sure I can guarantee that

McKell F
McKell F

New York's list was WAY better. LA had to have longer explanations to justify themselves. NYC all the way. 

Wiz D
Wiz D

NYC is the birthplace to Hip Hop. Our Hip Hop icon Is Biggie (G.O.A.T.), Brooklyn born & raised...La's is 2pac...someone born & raised in Harlem til he was 14...nuff said.


The ONLY good thing LA has is the weather!!! All else you are plainly dreaming!!! You must be so stoned out of your mind, that hallucinations have become the norm for you!!!

The food is HORRIBLE!!! If you want truly good Mexican food, go to Texas, not LA which serves pseudo Mexican slop.

You can't even get decent pizza anywhere in LA!!! Hint: the secret to NYC's great pizza is the water; which in LA you should not drink!

LA has plenty of cockroaches, bedbugs and rats!!! Even fancy apartments in LA have them! You truly must live in some bubble, as every place gets exterminated on a frequent basis!

Take off those rose coloured glasses, as they are clouding your judgment!!!

LA has great weather, that cannot be disputed; all else you have written is bogus and largely fabricated.! Stop accepting payment from the LA Tourist Board, and instead write authentic journalistic pieces!


The ONLY good thing LA has is the weather!!! All else you are plainly dreaming!!! You must be so stoned out of your mind, that hallucinations have become the norm for you!!!

Jhonny P
Jhonny P

At least in nyc we are not tripping over homeless people. Nyc does not have skidrow we actually have shelters and programs for the homeless. LA just ignores the problem.

Natalia C
Natalia C

At leased in New York we don't sit down all day smoking weed .Also we have one of the most important monuments in the United States the Statue of Liberty who cares about you montains. And do you guys have City Island I don't think so. Plus he have broadway and we have radio city music hall which is the home of the rockets. Plus we've got time square which on New Years is where the ball drops.


I'm from Chicago and have lived in LA for 5 years and only got to live in NYC for about 6 months. The weather is great here in LA but honestly that's about it. The major problem for me is that LA really isn't a city and shouldn't be called such. It's a bunch of neighborhoods, towns and suburbs spread out on this sprawl of wasteland. The pace is slower, I'll admit that. So if you want to laze around with people who don't have jobs but somehow manage to have money (trust funds, sugar daddies, alt modeling gigs) then be my guest, come here. It's not diverse. There aren't any mixed areas.

Mexican food?? The stuff the passes for Mexican food, yeah. I'm from Chicago, best Mexican food around so maybe I have higher standards than the people here. You want a pizza? Good luck, these people can't cook a pizza to save their lives. A pizza for christ sakes! Yes I'm from Chicago, home of the deep dish pizza and the best pizza places in the country, so again, maybe I have higher standards. Did I mention LA ISN'T a city??? Yeah the weather is nice but the SMOG is terrible. The only decent area is West Hollywood and that's a small, small area so after a few months, you've already seen and done everything there is to see and do, gets old fast. Nightlife??? What a joke. Everything closes at 2 am. Yup 4 am liquor license? 5 am liquor license? Nope lmfao. EVERY nightlife sport closes at 2 am. I was shocked when I moved here, went to a popular club in my area and at 1:30 (an hour after I arrived) the bartender was doing last call LMFAO. In Chicago we didn't even leave the house until 12:30 am for a night out. Here people are get ready to hit the clubs at 9 pm LMFAO GAY!!! 

USERS. Prepare for everyone you meet to size you up for what you can do for THEM. I work in the entertainment industry. I hate when people ask what I do. As soon I say what I do, everyone wants to be my friend and give me their crappy scripts to pass on or try to get me to connect them with people I know in the industry. Very hard to have meaningful friendships here when everyone is lazy and instead of working hard, just wants to get by with as little effort as possible by using other people. So yeah, the pace is slow, because no one has a real job here. And did he say there are no roaches and rats here? LMFAO. I've had roach infestations in EVERY single apartment I've had and I've lived in primarily luxury apartments in either West Hollywood or Beverly Hills. Roaches so bad in my small 1 bedroom for $1800 a month that I finally moved because management could care less. I tried every pest control measure on the market and some helped somewhat but nothing eradicated them. If you live in a multi-unit building, unless the management company has a pest control measure in place (having the pest control people come out on a regular schedule (every 3 months) to spray and stuff, you're going to have pests and that goes for ANY  city. 

I have roaches right now and I have a 1 bedroom in a luxury building, which I pay $2200 a month for. I've lived here 5 years and lived in 4 different apartments, had roaches in every single one and mice in two of them. Came in the kitchen one morning and there were mouse droppins ALL over my granite counter top. That's how I found out I had mice. Told the building management and they said it was impossible because I was on the 6th floor and they said mice can't get up there lmfao. Yeah right bought mouse traps and caught 3 mice that night and then called them upstairs to witness it!! What did they do?? All they did was put sticky traps down so that in the middle of the night I woke up to a squeeling stuck mouse and had to wait until 7 am for them to come and get it. Building manager came up and stomped on it to put it out of its misery and then threw it away. Needless to say I moved! The last straw was one night I ordered pizza, it was only 8 pm and I had the pizza box on the counter because it had just arrived. I grabbed a slice and sat down to watch a movie, when the movie got to a quiet part I heard crunching noises and to my horror looked over on the counter and there was a mouse helping himself to my pizza. 

I've seen things here I've never seen in my life. There's a guy we call the "shit bandit" because he runs up in front of you, pulls down his pants and quickly drops a deuce right in front of you. Yes, takes a shit, in WEST HOLLYWOOD, not a low-income area. Have you ever seen a grown man take a shit on the sidewalk right in front of you? No? Then come to LA. Just a few weeks ago I was out with friends on the Sunset Strip and a hooker threw milk on us for no reason. And once a guy ran into a crowd of us on the outside patio of a bar with a needle trying to prick people saying he had Hep C. YES trying to prick people with a Hep C needle. I also found a fat guy ODed and dead as a doorknob in his convertible on the way home from a bar once. Had to call 911 and they had the nerve to ask me "how do you know he's dead?" He was blue, swollen, purple slumped over with a needle in his arm. Cops came and must have assumed he was alive, then they realized he wasn't and called the coroner and yellow taped off the area. 

If you live in any building and need anything fix you better believe your management company is going to send an undocumented worker to fix it. My heat went out and after 4 times of him coming to fix it, it STILL didn't work so I had to call a proper air & heat technician myself and pay out of pocket, turns out I could have blown up because the other guy didn't know what he was doing. 

LA SUCKS! Sorry, not sorry.

jazmin r
jazmin r

@PopGlitch  is there an emoji for someone bowing down to everything you said? I am from Jersey/New York and I am going to say that I agree with everything you said. Now I moved here almost 3 years ago and to me I have been miserable. I don't have any friends since I moved here because everybody is faker then I could ever imagine, I wonder how so many people here have no jobs yet they live in a nice house and drive nice cars, (girls and guys) I have been feeling torn because I know I love ny and my heart is there but I am also in the entertainment industry and I have to try and keep giving it a chance! but as you said about people trying to contact you because of who you are I can feel what your saying because being in the industry I have connected with plenty of people that have wasted my time with lies and leading me on and thank God im not stupid enough to allow myself to get fooled but, its like they always expecting you to do something with them in order for them to help you and im like (im good0! so the rats here are plenty and the water bugs are just as big! the beaches are boring ass hell they don't even go to the beach because everybody is at their pool and at their house on their computers or at the gym. The bars and the clubs close at 2 am on the DOT and so there is no nightlife! Who cares about the weed not everybody smokes, I don't! and another thing is that the beaches are nice but there is nothing to do at them! In new York people bbq at the beach and play music and dance and drink and here God forbid you even talking on your phone the people look at you like your distrupting their peace and quiet! another thing is that their is NO CULTURE here ! californias "HISPANICS"  are only MEXICAN! I am Puerto rican and I have only met 2 other Puerto Ricans out here! When I came here I was expecting to see people in the streets having a good time and music and parties and juts fun and I was WRONG !! Ok so new York is dirty and it snows and all that crazy shit but when that never stopped anybody from living a fun life in new York people still are out and about and you meet millions of people and they are fun and they live life to thee fullest and everything is open 24/7 or late and the atmosphere and the shopping and stores and restaraunts and all the different things to do and see you can NEVER get bored in new York unless you are a lonely ass person! I like cali weather and the scenary and the fact that people are really healthy out here but the people suck! and its boring ass hell out here !

I can go on and on but the reason why I came to this page is because though I know that I want to live in new York I know I didn't jump on an airplane with just my purse and my cell phone never have been here EVER AND DIDNT KNOW ANYONE AT ALL! ALL BY MYSELF ! FOR NOTHING !! so that's why I know I have to give it all I got!

jazminlaurenatgmail dotcom

Syed R
Syed R

Im from NY and after reading this i want to move to LA. Dont get me wrong, I do love my city being born and raised here, but i also hate it! its hard living here. My fathers rent is 2/3's his income! but then again i am from a lower middle class family and it might not apply to everyone. But i just hate how other places have so much more space than us for a cheaper price. they have nicer and bigger homes, bigger closets, bathrooms and backyards. I am tired of the subway every morning going from queens to the city everyday taking up a 1 hour of my life everyday. 

LA seems nice, relaxed, calm, and healthy and they seem to enjoy life. I dont want to spend my life working hard forever and stressing out. I want to have time to enjoy and spend time with friends and family and have a calm and also meaningful work life. I have friends from other parts of the usa, and they complained that the people of NY are not as friendly. And i guess its kind of true, each time i go out of the state, people tend to be friendlier, and more genuine. NYC's sky always seems greyish. so much pollution. La might be the same but there is a sunny feeling to it right? Ive never been there, but ive seen it in gta v ;)

What I like about NYC is that we do have everything. Pretty much. we have a couple beaches, we have great skyscrapers, we have broadway, brooklyn bridge, soho and coney island and 1000's of restaurants, great museums, culture, great diversity, people from all over the world, all 4 seasons which is a good thing! having fall is an amazing feeling, Even snow in the winter is FINE, feels just right for me. 

I guess i just want a different experience. I am tired of NY, and the relaxing sunny life in LA, and the cheaper cost of living, and healthy lifestyle and space, and everything appeals to me. And also i think LA chicks are much hotter than NY chicks. LA just looks beautiful to me. LA is the type of place New Yorkers would go to for a vacation, and they are lucky they have a place like that as a home, with its beautiful beaches, mountains, beautiful people, Beverly hills, bigger homes. 

Would i rather work extremely hard and be stressed out for a bulk of my life? or would I rather live in a beautiful place, work moderately hard a nice smooth 40 hour work week, and enjoy Life? 

Im seriously considering moving to LA after im done with college! 

Nick K
Nick K

Cheaper... Good luck. LA is expensive. Move to San Diego. Moving to LA is cool if you have work set up, your house is close to your job, you are prepared to tell at every soul in traffic because you've hit insanity on the 405.

Source: lived in LA and moved right back to Brooklyn. NYC has everything besides good weather and outstanding beaches, but beaches are accessible and the people watching in NYC is second to none. Stay in NYC. Visit LA to see if you really like it. If the beach is attracting you, move to ocean beach or pacific beach in San Diego

Sean L
Sean L

This is a joke.  L.A. is second-rate and always will be.  I've lived in both cities and I'll take NYC any day.  New York is a world class city and the only ones that can compare are other world class cities... London, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin, etc..  New York is truly international and LA is not.  No one would even care about LA if it weren't for Hollywood.  I think it's funny Angelinos are trying to compare because New Yorkers aren't.

Erika J
Erika J


tommy D
tommy D

How's a goin, I live in Ireland and have never been to either place which devastates me to my very core so just be happy where ur at, both amazing places so calm down have a drink and breathe, in Ireland we have a festival that involves looking at a goat on top of 80 foot of scaffolding, true story, u lucky so and sos don't know how good u have it lol, stay smiling u crazy yanks peace and love

Karen M
Karen M

NYC is great, LA is great, but the greatest city is Chicago.

Joshua D
Joshua D

People actually smile here. LOL Yeah fake ones. People are so rude in California and without manors it is sickening. 

Erika J
Erika J


Natalia C
Natalia C

New York is more active than L.A and not all the people in New York are uptight. Of course we are not going to say hi to you on the streets we don't even know who you are.

McKell F
McKell F

@Erika J @Joshua D I actually feel that's one stereotype about NYC that I found to be very wrong when I moved here. New Yorkers are very kind people and they have your back. We just don't deal with bull shit. :)

Dustin S
Dustin S

all of this is true, however I think you mean OC, not L.A.  L.A. is all smog and pollution.


1.Ok, you obviously win the “nicer weather” argument.Congratulations.Let’s move on.

2.Is it actually called “smiling” when your face is in a semi-permanent state of paralysis thanks to weekly injections of botox?  Or maybe you’re just squinting because of all the goddamn sunshine.  Either way…no one here cares why you’re smiling and would prefer you stop looking at us anyway.

3.New Yorkers are proud to say they don’t set foot in places like Times Square or Macy’s.  Don’t confuse those tourist traps with the Statue of Liberty, which many of us haven’t visited but would never disrespect.

4.Neither actually.

5.Um, pretty sure you just tried to argue that LA’s (distant) proximity to another city-in another state-is a reason to love living there.  Weak.

6.Actually the parks here make up 14% of NYC (29,000 acres to be exact).  That’s ok though-math is hard.   So is fact checking.

7.Necessary for treating all those glaucoma outbreaks.

8.I really can’t argue with you here.  Mexican food is awesome and we don’t have enough of it. Truth.

9.Yes, an apartment in SOHO might cost you an arm and a leg without providing much space for the rest of your limbs, however, a quick ride on the subway to Greenpoint or Long Island City and you and your appendages can live with plenty of space (and a kickass view of the skyline)

10. Good point.  You guys are pretty lazy.  Don’t worry, no one is respecting you for it.

11.Yeah, ok. That’s probably true although NY also has plenty of awesome farmers markets year-round that are supplemented by amazing food halls and ethnic food stores.   You want some spices for that guacamole or just more avocados.

12.Really? Penthouse, beach house, brownstone, loft, riverboat, sixplex, whatever.  You name it, we’ve got it. 

13.Shake Shack

14.Stop being so dramatic…that stuff rarely happens…

15.Again, not sure why you are bragging about your proximity to massive commercial shopping (which New Yorkers typically try to avoid).  However, since you brought it up, Brooklyn actually has both a Target and an Ikea which are easily accessed via subway, ferry, bus, bicycle, taxi, Uber cab, or by walking on two feet.

16.See response #1.

17.Coney Island has WAY more personality than any of those places and is WAY cheaper.

18.WNYC, NPR, and Spotify.  That’s all you need.

19.See response #1.

20.Be honest…you just go…sit in traffic.  Also, again, congratulations on your proximity to OTHER cities. 

21.No one cares.

22.Not ALL of the sidewalks are covered in trash and only SOME of them smell like piss.   And most of the time that smell is covered up by the delicious smell of Hot Nuts.

23.Well I’m glad to see we are back to comparing issues within our respective state lines.  So that’s a start.  And, you know what, go ahead, blast your music and sing as loud as you want, I’m sure your windows are up and your A/C is on full speed anyway so it’s not like anyone can hear you.  In New York, we have headphones.  And self-respect.   

24.We also have movies…and theater, and dance, and opera, and all that other cultured shit that drives the economy.

25.Thank you.

26.Seriously?!  “Jazzy Jews” I’m not even going to respond to something so stupid.  Actually, I will.  Fuck you.

27.You already made your point.  You’re lazy. We get it.

28.Trust me, we love all that bullshit just as much as you.  Heard of SoulCycle?

29.Coachella is a shitshow of idiots in neon and jorts.  Your words, not mine.

30.Well, to use your earlier weather argument against you, dressing nicely 3 days per year isn’t more special just because you’ve endured 362 days of sloppiness.

31.You got us there.  We really enjoy shitting on LA 

Mark A
Mark A

@SB New Yorkies creep me out with their negativity. I still like New York though. Honestly I prefer Chicago, and maybe Boston. Oh, I forgot to mention Miami, and L. FUCKING. A!

Chris K
Chris K

@SB Former New Yorker and converted Angeleno. Most of your rejoinders are flat wrong.

1. Thank you.

2. It must be the crappy weather that makes you so grumpy and defensive.

3. Doesn't change the fact that there is very little overlap between the tourist traps and local points of pride.

4. Great, then you can live in our desert.

5. Having convenient weekend getaways isn't weak--it's part of city life.

6. You missed the point. Compare the streetscapes.

7. You don't need glaucoma. Any individual, for any reason including anxiety, can go to one of our thousands of walk-in clinics and get medical marijuana paperwork for 40 bucks.

8. I'll switch sides and say our pizza sucks.

9. Compare the rent in Long Island City to the rent in Culver City on a 2-bedroom and get back to me.

10. We're so lazy that we probably spend 2 or 3 times as much exercising than New Yorkers.

11. I guarantee you we have plenty of access to the spices requisite for guac.

12. Rustic canyon cabin.

13. PierBurger. Same thing.

14. Did you just say cockroaches rarely happen in New York?

15. Again, you missed the point. New Yorkers rarely realize how outrageous it is that going to the post office takes more than 5-10 minutes.

16. Cool.

17. Excuse me while I laugh at that suggestion, particularly since the natural counterpoint to Coney Island is Venice Beach. The comparison between those two isn't even close. Try again.

18. No...the public radio here is actually outstanding and contributes a great deal to our sense of community.

19. Cool again.

20. You seem to think this is a fabrication when it's actually an important part of the lifestyle.

21. Okay.

22. The odors and litter are truly disgusting in New York. Go take a look at Chicago or San Francisco or even downtown L.A. That mess is not required.

23. Being a New Yorker, your sense of "personal space" seems to be tailored to your lack of it.

24. Hahahaha, movies in New York. Sure, mostly mainstream cinema in places like Times Square, and you won't be caught dead there.

25. Well, it's leaving L.A. now since voters decided to require our porn actors to wear condoms.

26. I'm not sure where to go on this one.

27. Having weekends and evenings isn't lazy. It's part of life. Remember how it was a big deal when Ford came up with that 5-day work week? Was that because his factory workers were lazy?

28. There's plenty of BS to go around.

29. Alright.

30. I'm not sure how much you used weather "against" us here.

31. Cool, you really enjoy shitting on yourselves too. In the subway.

Marina M
Marina M

@Chris K I live in NY, but Im agreed with u! Smelly trash and sh*t everywhere.

Vanessa T
Vanessa T

@SB You sound super angry, makes me not want to move there. And yes, I'm reading this months later, just found the post. I've been to New York City but I live in an LA suburb. It was always my dream to move on New York city and once I got to visit, it wasn't as magical as I thought it'd be. There are things that LA doesn't have and never will, I do like the better public transportation but I also would miss my private space when everyone is on the subway at 3pm. It's comparing apples and oranges truly. If you like city vibe, fast paced, walking fast, and weather changes then NY is for you. If you want different scenery, semi similar weather year round, cheaper rent, your own car LA is for you. I know wanting to work in fashion NYC is the place to be, although LA has opportunities too. And always living near LA I actually don't know if I could last living in NYC a long time. If first and foremost I could even afford to live there....


@SB You lose in every way possible. Funny how you think great weather counts as one point. Like having Coney Island (a garbage place, btw) counts equally against great weather.

I used to live in NYC and would never think twice about leaving California. Just reread what you wrote. You're grumpy and are clearly the result of a sh*t quality of life experience.

Alice H
Alice H

3) in NY Marianna is a safe drug but in LA Mariuana is devastative drug.

Erika J
Erika J


Alice H
Alice H

1) The hospital in LA cure patients but the hospitals in New York kills healthy people go and see what is going on in Presbyterian Weil cornel hospital doctors are murders

2) in LA people don't have problem if you tell them " hey this way is better" but in NY if you say such things to one for end of your life will fuck you.

Sarah A
Sarah A

@Alice H Are you writing in English? I'd be interested in your points if they were coherent.

Erika J
Erika J