Berlin v Los Angeles: how does it compare?

With data from our City Life Index, here’s how life in Berlin stacks up against LA
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Clubs, culture, cafés, graffiti, hipsters and history at every turn: Berlin certainly has a seductive reputation. The German capital is a magnet for expats from across the world, especially creative types from across Europe and the US drawn by the idea of three-day parties and low, low rents.

But what’s life really like in Berlin? And should you think about moving here? We surveyed hundreds of Berliners about their city as part of the Time Out City Life Index 2018, and compared their answers to people in LA. Here’s what we learned.

Is it really that affordable?

Is Berlin affordable?

One of Berlin’s big draws in the last ten years has been the perception that you can get by here on very little money. Work just a few hours a week, they say, and you’ll have enough cash to get by and enough time to write that novel, record that album or build that career as a vegetable-based performance artist. But is it true?

Well, the numbers bear it out. When we asked whether Berlin was affordable, 29% of locals agreed, compared to just 3% in LA. On average, people think you can comfortably get by here on a salary of €49,815 or around $61,000: 36% lower than in LA. And a night out in Berlin costs €61.92 or around $76, compared to $88.35 in LA.

Our survey also confirms that part-time work is a big thing here. Fewer Berliners work full-time than Angelenos, and more work part-time. There are more people who declared themselves happily unemployed (as well as more who said they were looking for work). While the average wage isn’t that high, the gap between what people earn and what they think they need to earn to live comfortably is narrower than in LA.

Are Berliners friendly?

A friendly Berliner

We asked Berliners about the biggest stereotypes about their city that also happened to be true. The most common response was to quote the city’s ex-mayor Klaus Wowereit, who called the city ‘arm aber sexy’ (poor but sexy). But plenty also mentioned the ‘Berliner schnauze’ or ‘Berlin snout’: the city’s traditional blunt manner, masking a good nature. ‘Behind many a Berliner schnauze sits a big heart’, said one German respondent.

And according to our survey, it’s kind of true: behind its gruff facade, Berlin is a friendly place. Berliners reckon it’s easier to make friends, find love or have sex in their city than Angelenos do. But they like to keep their relationships IRL, using social networks and dating apps much less than people in LA. They’re more likely than Angelenos to bump into someone they know in the street, and of all 32 cities we surveyed, they’re most likely to know their next-door neighbour’s name. Remember that if you’re ever on the receiving end of a classic snouting.

How hedonistic is Berlin?

A club in Berlin

Berliners have a reputation as party animals, but it seems they actually prefer to turn in early than chance it in the queue at Berghain. Berliners go to bars and clubs less than Angelenos. They go out less on weeknights. They take drugs less often – in fact, 84% haven’t got high in the last year. And locals rate their city less well for live music and nightlife than Angelenos – despite having a selection of world-renowned nightspots on their doorstep and a U-Bahn that runs 24 hours a day. Oh, well – that just leaves more room for visitors.

What about booze? This may come as a surprise to anyone who’s ever heard the word ‘Oktoberfest’, but our German respondents were less likely to drink at all than people in LA: only 77 percent said they drink alcohol, compared to 85% of Angelenos, and a lower percentage of people admitted they couldn’t get through the day without a stiffener. Unsurprisingly, they also have fewer hangovers.

That said, when Berliners do go out drinking there’s a clear favourite. Four out of ten Germans would order ein bier over anything else – no wonder, when it’s cheaper than mineral water – and of all those beer drinkers, half opt for helles bier or lager. (Craft beer isn’t a big thing here, unlike in LA, where 35% of beer fans told us they drink it.) Want to find out more? Here are the city’s best bars and pubs where you can get down to some important research.

Are Berliners happier?

Everyday life in Berlin

If you’re wondering whether moving to Berlin would actually improve your wellbeing, the answer isn’t clear. Berliners are less likely than Angelenos to have felt happy in the last 24 hours – but they’re also less likely to have felt stressed, lonely, overwhelmed, depressed, anxious or sleep-deprived! Maybe life here is just less intense than in LA?

Berliners are certainly more insular – they go on fewer holidays than Angelenos and they’re more likely to find their own country’s accent sexier than a foreign one. Perhaps surprisingly for a city with such a divided and difficult past, Berliners are more backward-looking: fewer people think their city has changed for the better, more say the best thing about the place is its proud history, and – given access to a time machine – they’re more likely to elect to travel to the city’s past rather than the future.

On the other hand, locals don’t tend to agree that Berlin is great because it feels exciting, because it’s diverse, or because there’s always something new to discover. (Perhaps they’re just jaded? More Berliners than Angelenos had lived in the city for more than ten years.) While 75% say they’re proud to be live in their city, that’s less than the 81% LA of proud Angelenos.

Still, people here appreciate their city’s creativity, resilience, solidarity and abundant green spaces. Finally – and this might be the dealbreaker – they’re full of praise for the city’s transport system. So if you’re fed up of your cramped and crowded, constantly delayed daily commute, maybe it’s worth signing up for that German language course after all.

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