Richard Panek + Lee Smolin

Get ready to have your mind sucked through a wormhole as Panek, author of The Four Percent Universe: Dark Matter, Dark Energy and the Race to Discover the Rest of Reality, discusses what is ideologically beyond deep space—and why scientists don't know anything about it. In case that's not conceptually obscure enough for you, Smolin, the evening's moderator, pioneered something known as "loop quantum gravity."