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31 reasons LA kicks New York's ass

Even though we could have stopped at the weather, we came up with 30 other reasons to settle this once and for all

Photograph: Jakob N. Layman
This is Santa Monica Beach. It looks like this in August, December, March‚ÄĒoh, and all those other months too.

In an epic battle between New York and Los Angeles, which city comes out on top? Honestly, we don't usually give it much thought, but the editors over at Time Out New York suggested we go head to head, so we're bringin' out the big guns. This list will destroy New York's list. And let it be known that half our staff moved here from New York, so a) we know what we're talking about and b) we're living proof that the West Coast is the best coast.

1. We would just be bad Angelenos if the weather weren't first on our list. Listen: anyone who says nice days are better when you've earned them after enduring a long miserable winter is just delusional. Nice days are nice days, period. And we have them all the damn time. Do you miss the fall colors? Take a day trip and get a face-full of fall foliage. What is Christmas with no snow? Um, you can see snow in the mountains from the beach—and you can be up in said mountains in under two hours. Save the "no pain, no gain" attitude for that 10k you're training for. In February. On the beach path.

2. People actually smile here. Manners, ever heard of 'em?

3. Our tourist traps aren't traps. They're actually nice places that locals like to visit too, like the Hollywood Bowl, Malibu and the Griffith Observatory. New Yorkers are inexplicably proud when they can say they've never visited the Statue of Liberty (a majorly important site in our country's history)—and never would.

4. Which would you rather wake up to in the morning? Birds singing or cars honking?

5. New York's gratuitous getaway is Atlantic City, a sad attempt at hedonistic tourism. LA's is Las Vegas, which wrote the hedonism manual.

6. LA's natural beauty. We're used to hearing that our city is just one big quilted network of suburbs, and that may be true, but the threads that hold that quilt together are trees and fauna and green space. Palms line the streets, we have canyons and hills and mountains covered in waterfalls and native plants. We don't need to corral 95 percent of our city's nature into parks surrounded by an otherwise concrete jungle.

7. Two words: medical marijuana.

8. Mexican food. Do we really need to elaborate here? Just for good measure: whatever kind of Mexican food you're craving (tlayudas, caldo de mariscos Veracruz style, brunch time tamales made by someone you wish was your abuelita, jicama con limon y chamoy from a street cart, life-changing mole, tacos from a truck—seriously, whatever you want), it's here in Los Angeles, it's authentic and chances are, it's cheap.

9. You get more bang for your buck here, especially when it comes to living space. We don't have to pay an entire month's salary for an 8x10 "apartment" with our toilet in our entryway just to be in a cool neighborhood. We can also afford to live alone (read: no creepy Craigslist roommates) if we want to. And in addition to more square footage per dollar, most of LA apartments have plentiful storage, big windows (you know, for all the sun) and—eat your hearts out, New Yorkers—outdoor space.

10. We don't humble-brag about how hard we have it in a weak ploy to get respect (or sympathy). Our quality of life is good here, and we're pretty pleased about it.

11. Farmers markets. Bigger, better, more plentiful, more often, all year long.

12. When you live in a city that's still evolving and growing (as opposed to a city that is chronically built out and claustrophobic), you can have any lifestyle or living situation you want. A live/work loft in a historic industrial building Downtown? Got it. Midcentury-modern in a Mid-City fourplex? Got that too. Or maybe a studio on the beach that fits you and all your boards comfortably? No problem. Rustic cabin in the canyons where you can stargaze from your balcony? Italian villa next to a colonial mansion next to a Spanish bungalow? We might not be able to afford it, but we've got that too. It's all here in LA.

13. In-N-Out.

14. Cockroaches, bedbugs and rats? Not really a thing here. Enjoy your infestations (and pricey exterminations).

15. A shopping trip to Ikea/Target/any grocery store isn't a harrowing day-long event here. Our errands are stress- and crowd-free, much like the rest of our lives.

16. We've already rubbed in the fact that our weather is unmatched, but we also know how to take advantage of it. We spend a lot of time outdoors—eating, drinking, hiking, pool partying, watching movies, going to concerts—year-round. We don't have to run on a treadmill if we don't want to. Even our schools are indoor-outdoor. Lucky kids.

17. Theme parks. They're everywhere, and they're fucking fun: Knotts Berry Farm, Universal Studios, Six Flags, oh, and only the happiest goddamn place on earth, Disneyland.

18. Maybe it's because we spend a lot of time in our cars, but radio rules here. We have three public stations boasting news, entertainment and cutting edge music. KCRW is widely known as one of the best NPR stations in the country, and is probably responsible for launching most of your favorite bands. And don't forget our college stations—KCSN, KXLU, KXSC—playing obscure gems, and uh, hello, 93.5 KDAY for back-in-the-day hip hop hits. Word to your mother.

19. We can go all year without turning on the heat or the air conditioning.

20. When New Yorkers get out of the city, it involves an escape plan. You need to find a car. You need to buy a ticket. You need to worry about weather. And you need to get the hell out, because you just can't take it anymore. When we leave LA, it's about having an adventure. Impulse trip to the desert? Beach day in San Diego? Wine tasting in Santa Barbara? We just go.

21. Though we may never pronounce Marina del Rey the same way after "The Californians," no one here actually talks like that. The Valley accent is just another overused (albeit funny) trope. At their best, we're annoyed by New York accents. At their worst, we wish we had subtitles (or better yet, a mute button).

22. Our sidewalks may be cracked, but they're not covered in rotting trash. And they don't smell like piss.

23. Personal space isn't a commodity here. Want to blast pump-up songs and sing along in your car on your way to work? Not so easy on the subway. Do you prefer a detached house to the thin, TMI walls you share with your neighbor? You don't need to cross state lines to find that here.

24. Movies are made here, and we're proud of it. Not only is "the industry" great for our city's economy, but it entertains and inspires the entire world.

25. Also, you're welcome for all that porn you watch.

26. When it comes to jazzy Jews, we've got New York beat by a landslide. Woody Allen? Consensual (maybe) but creepy (definitely). Jeff Goldblum? Timeless babe. They both play weekly live shows, but Woody's cheapest tickets are a whopping $110 a pop. Jeff offers up his musical stylings (and stylin' outfits, and little dances, and eccentric anecdotes) FOR FREE, every week, and sticks around post-show to mingle with the crowd.

27. We work to live. You live to work.

28. So maybe, true to stereotype, we are really into yoga and juice cleanses and staying fit. Go ahead and call that narcissism if you want, but we guarantee it's better than being cooped up in a city that prides itself on being stressed out. Looking better is nice, but feeling better is key.

29. Coachella may be a shitshow of idiots in neon and jorts, but those idiots come from all over the world to experience it. As far as music festivals go, it destroys Governor's Ball—which no one is traveling more than four hours to attend, please.

30. New York, you're so formal. We dress comfortably and casually to do almost anything. And then, bonus, it's all the more exciting and special when we do get fancy.

31. To borrow from our homegirls in the Valley: Whatever. We know New York has us beat on some things, and that's okay. Good for them. Thing is, they're usually too busy shitting on us to realize that we don't really care. We're pretty laid back, and confident in the fact that LA is an amazing city (see above). Now if you'll excuse us, we're heading to the beach.

See New York's response: 31 reasons New York kicks LA's ass

And then, our response to New York's response: 31 things New York got wrong about LA

Have your own reasons why LA kicks New York's ass? Share them in the comments section below.

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63 comments
Try A
Try A

I have lived all over the country. Anyone I know that has visited LA has felt genuinely let down. What anyone does there, is yet to be determined....Hollywood hills are a bunch of bushes, the Hollywood Sign is invisible, Rodeo Drive is a wannabe NYC 5th Avenue. No culture, except for a few Mexican restaurants. My recommendations to Californians.... Stop trying so hard... Your state is in no way considered competition to New York.... But good luck spending the rest of your life tryingūüėä

Abdulai B
Abdulai B

Just visited LA for the first time and I must say its the best American city I have ever seen. They have almost everything I look for in a city that size. The only thing I don't like about LA or California as a whole is gas prices which is insanely high. That could soon change though with the coming electric car revolution. The roads are wide and actually look nice and the drivers not as crazy as those we have in the North East. BTW New York roads are Third World standards based on my own experience a few years ago. Never seen so many potholes in my life. As for tolls. OMG! We drove from MD to the heart of LA and back without a penny paid to tolls. NY are daylight robbers with their toll system. LA is also far cleaner than NY. I still like NY but LA is really an amazing city.

rodolfo n
rodolfo n

This list was probably written by a gentrifier. I'm an LA Native and our streets are probably just as bad as New Yorks possibly worst because of our storm drains that back up. When you flush the toilet it goes to santa monica Bay. Spontaneous trips to wherever NEVER HAPPEN. Tourist traps are just as bad as the statue of liberty ours are sidewalks with names on them that people take pictures of. We never go to Hollywood, we avoid downtown because there's nothing there. Radio is just as bad here kcrw is a joke. People are just as miserable here than they are in new York. People are very rude in LA, I have encountered more people with good manners in new York than in LA because theyre surrounded by people all the time.

Les P
Les P

L.A. is simply awesome.  NY is big and full of itself.  Seriously, how many hours can you spend looking at the same Kandinsky?,And anyone who claims they love the bitter chill of a six-month winter is simply lying. In L.A. nearly every day is perfect. And perfection leads to happy people doing happy things.  New Yorkers are angry much of the time. I don't need that. 


Food? Who cares who makes better pizza. I'd much rather sit outside in some awesome L.A. restaurant enjoying the warm snips of the evening breeze while pounding margaritas. I don't need to shove "excellent" NY pizza down my gullet in some stanky turn of the century (19th) hovel. 


And plenty of music for people like me who make a living playing guitar.  Nothing better in the world than making a living doing something you love in a place that welcomes you every morning with perfect weather..


NY is a fun place to visit; but so is katmandu. 

Abdulai B
Abdulai B

There is no comparison. LA is far better than NY no matter how you look at it.

Schmied S
Schmied S

Funny thing is, I don't see any Californians bitching on here. We never think of NYC, we're too damn busy being outside surfing, hiking, hanging at the beach, etc lol!

I'm from back east and you couldn't pay me enough to suffer through those F-ing winters! Not to mention the humidity, bugs, etc back there. Plus.... It's FLAT. No mountains, canyons, desert, Vegas, shitty weather, rarely ever any sunshine.

It's 72 and sunny for me year round, oh yah, one other thing, we can snow ski and surf in the same day!!!! Eat your damn heart out east coast. West coast is the SHEEEEIIIIITTTTT!!!!!!

Abdulai B
Abdulai B

I just left LA and on my way to MD and I'm actually a bit depressed as I write this. Me and my family are already talking about moving to LA. And don't get me started on the weather. Zero humidity mixed with breeze actually make me want to stay out all the time. No wonder people are so depressed all the time in the East Coast.

Jeffrey C
Jeffrey C

Don't forget Carl's Jr. WAY better burger chain than any of the others.

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

Im from New York and only thing I dont like about Los Angeles is way they exhibit Hatred towards Outsiders assuming all Outsiders moved get into Hollywood. People in Los Angeles are as rude as New Yorkers, but Angelenos assume they are "Funny" when most are not! Ive been around Neighborhoods of Los Angeles and they are also Dirty unless live in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Pasadena or way out in Valley. All this talk about Beaches? Most People go to Beaches in LA are Wealthy Whites, Hippy Whites and Tourist. Colored People so Economically discriminated against with Fair Housing that have Work 3 to 4 Jobs get by and dont have time to enjoy LA Beaches. Disney Land is "Fun"? Place be having Disease Outbreaks from all Dirty Tourist (Surprised havnt closed down Frequently) and Disney Land is extremely expensive so not like Locals are going their 24/7! Fashion? Most Angelenos by things at Discount Online or Flea Markets then LIE they bought Items from Beverly Hills or Melrose, Etc. Food Quality is Limited and usually 5 Star Restaurants poor tasting Food. 3 Star Restaurants usually have Poor Customer Services except for Restaurants in Asian Communities. Los Angeles has excellent Sports Venues and Universities and Vocational School, but Job Market beyond Entertainment Industey unstable because most People prefer get High on Weed than Study Vocation. Vegas is Dirty and not all Angelenos got $ Gamble. Most go to Vegas because Strip Clubs in Los Angeles SUCK and Night Clubs in Los Angeles SUCK due to all Actor and Model Wannabes INFESTING them!

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

Angelenos are Heart Conservatives, but Odd Reason they Vote as "Liberals" Live here in LA and OBSERVE? Most People are Conservatives

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

B, C, D.....F Actors and Actresses or Models and also Ordinary People walking around with Oversized Black Glasses look STUPID AS HELL. Even the International Celebrities live in LA Wear these Oversized Glasses really think ME being Latino knows what Korean or Bollywood Movie or Magazine they were In, Etc. Im "Bro I just want purchase my shit from Pharmacy but standing in my way thinking im beg for an Autograph"- Retarded.

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

There is PLENTY of Public Transportation, but these Retards prefer be in Cars that they cant really afford to look "Cool", but causes Gridlock not only on Highways, but also on Regular Streets. If Angelenos use more Public Transportation then Free Up Highways for more Commerce and less expensive to Live. Sprawled Out Place and be as expensive New York City and Tokyo? Houses should be as affordable as Texas!

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

People "Smile All Time"? Yeah Right! Angelenos are more Miserable and Racist than New Yorkers. Only ones Smile All Time are White People and Asians because they only ones got $ in Los Angeles. Expensive to open Small Business and expensive to maintain Customer Loyalty because everything Fad Oriented in Los Angeles or cant have Barbor Shop because has be Barborshop with Juice and Pet Boutique with Florals all in one because Half its Population is Infested with Gays should really migrate to San Francisco or STAY within Boundaries of West Hollywood

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

LAC means Looney Asylum County aka Looney Tunes came to REAL LIFE

Kenneth R
Kenneth R

LA sucks! Hence reason considering moving to Long Beach, Orange County, San Diego, Honolulu, Denver or Texas within next 3 1/2 Years. Waiting see how Mayor Garcetti do to improve City because Mayor Villainragosa was HORRIBLE Mayor didnt really do anything. NYC Mayors BETTER than LA Mayors!

A.L. H
A.L. H

The above can ONLY have been written by someone wracked by a monumental insecurity.

And while I'll not rebut it point by point, I moved here thirty-two years ago. This New Yorker had never seen a cockroach till he lived in L.A. Or bedbugs, which have bedeviled his West Coast existence for the last five years. Rats? I haven't seen any, but the authors of the above are living in a fantasy if they think for one instant that the alleys and cellars and sewers of Southern California aren't crawling with them, as are every major city in the world.

Los Angeles has its virtues, but a realistic view by its residents of exactly what those virtues are isn't among them.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S

"Between 2004 and 2012, New York saw its entertainment sector expand by 10,675 jobs ‚ÄĒ a 25% increase. During the same period, California lost 16,137 film and TV industry jobs, an 11% decline. " -LA TIMES


LA is actually losing film business left and right. The industry has been moving east for the last couple years. So while a few things are true about LA vs NYC that is not one of them. Film is a NYC game now. 

Jenny S
Jenny S

I like how most people that are complaining about this post are New Yorkers haha

DNC A
DNC A

New Yorkers are clueless. Life literally stops at the East and Hudson River...  and they are too worried about getting that perfectly crafted Bagel at 7:00a (not 7:01a) and that mandatory 10 Second Macchiato to kick start their hellacious day of walking through piss soaked air, homeless people preaching in every form of transportation, and others discussing how this and that opened last week and the're already over it. All this, plus the lack of sunlight due living on top of each other, is clouding the minds of what was once probably the best city in the world. Not anymore my friends. Wake up and smell the flowers. Oh wait, where are the flowers?? Google might be able to help you. Good luck...

Allison H
Allison H

@DNC A And you're dissing New Yorkers because what? We have busier jobs and our economy is better? Besides, it depends on what way you look at NY. If you look at the world like you look at NY, what's the point of living if all you're doing is moaning about how bad other cities are compared to your own?

E M
E M

Here is the Rock Bottom truth from a guy who has lived over 5 years on both coasts back to back. Originally from Toronto so I am in no way bias!


Lets simply do a little test here to see how great LA is Next to NYC.

Simply lets take NYC weather and ship it over to LA so that LA has the exact weather NYC does though out the year....You getting where I am going here LOL????


At this point when you actually stop to think about it...nothing in LA is better than NYC!

Freezing in your car to drive just to get milk for your Cheerios.

Everything is so spread out that in winter time you would not know people exist in LA.

No trips to the beach. Everything LA talks about is weather related. Take away the weather then is comes down to actual

things such as food, lifestyle, energy, people etc. NONE are better in LA, no joke.


Basically everything that LA claims is better actually simply revolves around weather. 

But the truth is if you did take New York weather to LA. NOTHING comes close, who ever said LA had better food is seriously smoking too much weed..getting high can make anything taste good, go try it lol. 

The only proud thing the have is a "fast food" establishment that they brag about in and out!! LMAO

You would actually have most people from LA move to NYC just so they can feel alive again.


New York is Quality with little to no hype. 

Los Angeles is all hype with the product it self being actually crap


Literally everything is better in NYC in this case.

Sometimes it just takes simplicity to figure these things out. So who ever said LA just has the weather and nothing else

is spot on and did the math!


Utsav G
Utsav G

I've lived in both the cities too. If NYC had LA's weather, it wouldn't make much difference, cuz the tall sky scrapers would block em anyway. What would you do on a sunny weather in NYC, go to the beach? You don't have a lot of outdoor activities is NYC. LA on the other hand, is the exact opposite. People don't work like dogs here, yet they manage to live a better life than most New Yorkers. You have better living space, clean environment, outdoor activities, and most of the people are nice and friendly. You got to be kidding me if you think they don't have good food in LA. Before I read this article, I was literally drooling, thinking about all the Mexican, Vietnamese food I used eat when I lived in LA. In NYC, once you are out of Manhattan, you really have nowhere to go, compared to LA, where you are surrounded by beach towns, and Vegas is only 4 hrs away. It's not like you have to always be in sunset blvd to have fun you know.

Babs W
Babs W

@Utsav G If NYC had LA's weather and cost of living, I'd move there tomorrow. I like the urban life with subways and walking rather than snail-speed traffic and road rage. Beaches are cool every once in a while, but it would have little impact on my everyday life. Plus LA's a bit too Mexican now for me.

a b
a b

@Utsav G Let's see:
Sunny day: Outdoor concerts literally all summer, tons of parks in every neighborhood, outdoor bars, roof top bars and dining... there's more but I get the impression you think that NYC exists inside a highrise in Manhattan.

Work: I worked 60+ hours per week in LA and did the same in NYC. People with ambition work hard regardless of their location. But i'll agree that most LA folks are considerably lazier than NYC.

Living space: I lived in a 750 sqft place in Brooklyn for 2200 /mo. I'm looking at places in Santa Monica right now (which is where I work so its mandatory to live here due to the soul crushing traffic)... and i'm seeing 2600+ for 500sqft. Once upon a time it was better in LA, but those days have come to an end

Clean environment: Google it... LA has the worst air quality in the country. I my first 3 days back I could taste car fumes in the air until I finally got used to it.

Getting out of town: Las Vegas is 4 hours away from LA (if you don't hit traffic). Do you have any clue how many places and things there are to do within 4 hours of NYC? Just to name a few: Philly, Boston, DC... but there's literally 10 states worth of cities within a 4 hour drive of NYC.

If you went to NYC and only stayed in Manhattan, then that's your problem. But don't claim there's nothing to do, nowhere to go, and no access to outdoor activities with sunshine in NYC just because you never did it.

Serge W
Serge W

if you don't have a lot of money, New York is the shitiest place you can live, you have to work your ass off if you wanna survive, I lived there, and in LA what you pay for a 30sft studio you have a whole condo with pool and beautiful views in Los Angeles, and youre better paid in LA that's for sure I can guarantee that

Allison H
Allison H

@Serge W If you know the right places to look you wouldn't be complaining about the prices of everything. 

McKell F
McKell F

New York's list was WAY better. LA had to have longer explanations to justify themselves. NYC all the way. 

Wiz D
Wiz D

NYC is the birthplace to Hip Hop. Our Hip Hop icon Is Biggie (G.O.A.T.), Brooklyn born & raised...La's is 2pac...someone born & raised in Harlem til he was 14...nuff said.

INDIGO B
INDIGO B

The ONLY good thing LA has is the weather!!! All else you are plainly dreaming!!! You must be so stoned out of your mind, that hallucinations have become the norm for you!!!

The food is HORRIBLE!!! If you want truly good Mexican food, go to Texas, not LA which serves pseudo Mexican slop.

You can't even get decent pizza anywhere in LA!!! Hint: the secret to NYC's great pizza is the water; which in LA you should not drink!

LA has plenty of cockroaches, bedbugs and rats!!! Even fancy apartments in LA have them! You truly must live in some bubble, as every place gets exterminated on a frequent basis!

Take off those rose coloured glasses, as they are clouding your judgment!!!

LA has great weather, that cannot be disputed; all else you have written is bogus and largely fabricated.! Stop accepting payment from the LA Tourist Board, and instead write authentic journalistic pieces!

INDIGO B
INDIGO B

The ONLY good thing LA has is the weather!!! All else you are plainly dreaming!!! You must be so stoned out of your mind, that hallucinations have become the norm for you!!!

Jhonny P
Jhonny P

At least in nyc we are not tripping over homeless people. Nyc does not have skidrow we actually have shelters and programs for the homeless. LA just ignores the problem.

Charlotte H
Charlotte H

Bulls hit I was tripping over people in the Bowery 50 years ago

Natalia C
Natalia C

At leased in New York we don't sit down all day smoking weed .Also we have one of the most important monuments in the United States the Statue of Liberty who cares about you montains. And do you guys have City Island I don't think so. Plus he have broadway and we have radio city music hall which is the home of the rockets. Plus we've got time square which on New Years is where the ball drops.

Hannah H
Hannah H

I'm from Chicago and have lived in LA for 5 years and only got to live in NYC for about 6 months. The weather is great here in LA but honestly that's about it. The major problem for me is that LA really isn't a city and shouldn't be called such. It's a bunch of neighborhoods, towns and suburbs spread out on this sprawl of wasteland. The pace is slower, I'll admit that. So if you want to laze around with people who don't have jobs but somehow manage to have money (trust funds, sugar daddies, alt modeling gigs) then be my guest, come here. It's not diverse. There aren't any mixed areas.


Mexican food?? The stuff the passes for Mexican food, yeah. I'm from Chicago, best Mexican food around so maybe I have higher standards than the people here. You want a pizza? Good luck, these people can't cook a pizza to save their lives. A pizza for christ sakes! Yes I'm from Chicago, home of the deep dish pizza and the best pizza places in the country, so again, maybe I have higher standards. Did I mention LA ISN'T a city??? Yeah the weather is nice but the SMOG is terrible. The only decent area is West Hollywood and that's a small, small area so after a few months, you've already seen and done everything there is to see and do, gets old fast. Nightlife??? What a joke. Everything closes at 2 am. Yup 4 am liquor license? 5 am liquor license? Nope lmfao. EVERY nightlife sport closes at 2 am. I was shocked when I moved here, went to a popular club in my area and at 1:30 (an hour after I arrived) the bartender was doing last call LMFAO. In Chicago we didn't even leave the house until 12:30 am for a night out. Here people are get ready to hit the clubs at 9 pm LMFAO GAY!!! 


USERS. Prepare for everyone you meet to size you up for what you can do for THEM. I work in the entertainment industry. I hate when people ask what I do. As soon I say what I do, everyone wants to be my friend and give me their crappy scripts to pass on or try to get me to connect them with people I know in the industry. Very hard to have meaningful friendships here when everyone is lazy and instead of working hard, just wants to get by with as little effort as possible by using other people. So yeah, the pace is slow, because no one has a real job here. And did he say there are no roaches and rats here? LMFAO. I've had roach infestations in EVERY single apartment I've had and I've lived in primarily luxury apartments in either West Hollywood or Beverly Hills. Roaches so bad in my small 1 bedroom for $1800 a month that I finally moved because management could care less. I tried every pest control measure on the market and some helped somewhat but nothing eradicated them. If you live in a multi-unit building, unless the management company has a pest control measure in place (having the pest control people come out on a regular schedule (every 3 months) to spray and stuff, you're going to have pests and that goes for ANY  city. 


I have roaches right now and I have a 1 bedroom in a luxury building, which I pay $2200 a month for. I've lived here 5 years and lived in 4 different apartments, had roaches in every single one and mice in two of them. Came in the kitchen one morning and there were mouse droppins ALL over my granite counter top. That's how I found out I had mice. Told the building management and they said it was impossible because I was on the 6th floor and they said mice can't get up there lmfao. Yeah right bought mouse traps and caught 3 mice that night and then called them upstairs to witness it!! What did they do?? All they did was put sticky traps down so that in the middle of the night I woke up to a squeeling stuck mouse and had to wait until 7 am for them to come and get it. Building manager came up and stomped on it to put it out of its misery and then threw it away. Needless to say I moved! The last straw was one night I ordered pizza, it was only 8 pm and I had the pizza box on the counter because it had just arrived. I grabbed a slice and sat down to watch a movie, when the movie got to a quiet part I heard crunching noises and to my horror looked over on the counter and there was a mouse helping himself to my pizza. 


I've seen things here I've never seen in my life. There's a guy we call the "shit bandit" because he runs up in front of you, pulls down his pants and quickly drops a deuce right in front of you. Yes, takes a shit, in WEST HOLLYWOOD, not a low-income area. Have you ever seen a grown man take a shit on the sidewalk right in front of you? No? Then come to LA. Just a few weeks ago I was out with friends on the Sunset Strip and a hooker threw milk on us for no reason. And once a guy ran into a crowd of us on the outside patio of a bar with a needle trying to prick people saying he had Hep C. YES trying to prick people with a Hep C needle. I also found a fat guy ODed and dead as a doorknob in his convertible on the way home from a bar once. Had to call 911 and they had the nerve to ask me "how do you know he's dead?" He was blue, swollen, purple slumped over with a needle in his arm. Cops came and must have assumed he was alive, then they realized he wasn't and called the coroner and yellow taped off the area. 


If you live in any building and need anything fix you better believe your management company is going to send an undocumented worker to fix it. My heat went out and after 4 times of him coming to fix it, it STILL didn't work so I had to call a proper air & heat technician myself and pay out of pocket, turns out I could have blown up because the other guy didn't know what he was doing. 


LA SUCKS! Sorry, not sorry.

jazmin r
jazmin r

@PopGlitch  is there an emoji for someone bowing down to everything you said? I am from Jersey/New York and I am going to say that I agree with everything you said. Now I moved here almost 3 years ago and to me I have been miserable. I don't have any friends since I moved here because everybody is faker then I could ever imagine, I wonder how so many people here have no jobs yet they live in a nice house and drive nice cars, (girls and guys) I have been feeling torn because I know I love ny and my heart is there but I am also in the entertainment industry and I have to try and keep giving it a chance! but as you said about people trying to contact you because of who you are I can feel what your saying because being in the industry I have connected with plenty of people that have wasted my time with lies and leading me on and thank God im not stupid enough to allow myself to get fooled but, its like they always expecting you to do something with them in order for them to help you and im like (im good0! so the rats here are plenty and the water bugs are just as big! the beaches are boring ass hell they don't even go to the beach because everybody is at their pool and at their house on their computers or at the gym. The bars and the clubs close at 2 am on the DOT and so there is no nightlife! Who cares about the weed not everybody smokes, I don't! and another thing is that the beaches are nice but there is nothing to do at them! In new York people bbq at the beach and play music and dance and drink and here God forbid you even talking on your phone the people look at you like your distrupting their peace and quiet! another thing is that their is NO CULTURE here ! californias "HISPANICS"  are only MEXICAN! I am Puerto rican and I have only met 2 other Puerto Ricans out here! When I came here I was expecting to see people in the streets having a good time and music and parties and juts fun and I was WRONG !! Ok so new York is dirty and it snows and all that crazy shit but when that never stopped anybody from living a fun life in new York people still are out and about and you meet millions of people and they are fun and they live life to thee fullest and everything is open 24/7 or late and the atmosphere and the shopping and stores and restaraunts and all the different things to do and see you can NEVER get bored in new York unless you are a lonely ass person! I like cali weather and the scenary and the fact that people are really healthy out here but the people suck! and its boring ass hell out here !

I can go on and on but the reason why I came to this page is because though I know that I want to live in new York I know I didn't jump on an airplane with just my purse and my cell phone never have been here EVER AND DIDNT KNOW ANYONE AT ALL! ALL BY MYSELF ! FOR NOTHING !! so that's why I know I have to give it all I got!

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Dianna P
Dianna P

@PopGlitch   that figures.. "from chicago?" lol you wouldn't know mexican food if it bit you on the arse.  any bordering state .. ca, tejas, n.m. arizona have the best authentic mexican food. Nice try tho gavacha (whitegirl). LMAO

Syed R
Syed R

Im from NY and after reading this i want to move to LA. Dont get me wrong, I do love my city being born and raised here, but i also hate it! its hard living here. My fathers rent is 2/3's his income! but then again i am from a lower middle class family and it might not apply to everyone. But i just hate how other places have so much more space than us for a cheaper price. they have nicer and bigger homes, bigger closets, bathrooms and backyards. I am tired of the subway every morning going from queens to the city everyday taking up a 1 hour of my life everyday. 


LA seems nice, relaxed, calm, and healthy and they seem to enjoy life. I dont want to spend my life working hard forever and stressing out. I want to have time to enjoy and spend time with friends and family and have a calm and also meaningful work life. I have friends from other parts of the usa, and they complained that the people of NY are not as friendly. And i guess its kind of true, each time i go out of the state, people tend to be friendlier, and more genuine. NYC's sky always seems greyish. so much pollution. La might be the same but there is a sunny feeling to it right? Ive never been there, but ive seen it in gta v ;)


What I like about NYC is that we do have everything. Pretty much. we have a couple beaches, we have great skyscrapers, we have broadway, brooklyn bridge, soho and coney island and 1000's of restaurants, great museums, culture, great diversity, people from all over the world, all 4 seasons which is a good thing! having fall is an amazing feeling, Even snow in the winter is FINE, feels just right for me. 

I guess i just want a different experience. I am tired of NY, and the relaxing sunny life in LA, and the cheaper cost of living, and healthy lifestyle and space, and everything appeals to me. And also i think LA chicks are much hotter than NY chicks. LA just looks beautiful to me. LA is the type of place New Yorkers would go to for a vacation, and they are lucky they have a place like that as a home, with its beautiful beaches, mountains, beautiful people, Beverly hills, bigger homes. 


Would i rather work extremely hard and be stressed out for a bulk of my life? or would I rather live in a beautiful place, work moderately hard a nice smooth 40 hour work week, and enjoy Life? 


Im seriously considering moving to LA after im done with college! 

Nick K
Nick K

Cheaper... Good luck. LA is expensive. Move to San Diego. Moving to LA is cool if you have work set up, your house is close to your job, you are prepared to tell at every soul in traffic because you've hit insanity on the 405.

Source: lived in LA and moved right back to Brooklyn. NYC has everything besides good weather and outstanding beaches, but beaches are accessible and the people watching in NYC is second to none. Stay in NYC. Visit LA to see if you really like it. If the beach is attracting you, move to ocean beach or pacific beach in San Diego

Sean L
Sean L

This is a joke.  L.A. is second-rate and always will be.  I've lived in both cities and I'll take NYC any day.  New York is a world class city and the only ones that can compare are other world class cities... London, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin, etc..  New York is truly international and LA is not.  No one would even care about LA if it weren't for Hollywood.  I think it's funny Angelinos are trying to compare because New Yorkers aren't.

Lucas B
Lucas B

@Sean L Actually this was a response to a challenge from a the New York editors... Did you even read it? 

Erika J
Erika J

YOU NEW YORK PEOPLE KILL ME WITH THE BOTOX COMMENTS!  THIS IS HOLLYWOOD, YOU'LL SEE IT SOMETIMES, BUT BY NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DO THE REAL PEOPLE IN LOS ANGELES MESS WITH OR CAN EVEN AFFORD THAT SHIT.  WE ARE HARD WORKING LOS ANGELEIANS  TRYING TO SUPPORT OURSELVES AND OUR FAMILIES.  SO UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY BEEN TO THE HOOD, DON'T COMMENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.  HOLLYWOOD IS HOLLYWOOD, LOS ANGELES IS LOS ANGELES!

tommy D
tommy D

How's a goin, I live in Ireland and have never been to either place which devastates me to my very core so just be happy where ur at, both amazing places so calm down have a drink and breathe, in Ireland we have a festival that involves looking at a goat on top of 80 foot of scaffolding, true story, u lucky so and sos don't know how good u have it lol, stay smiling u crazy yanks peace and love

Karen M
Karen M

NYC is great, LA is great, but the greatest city is Chicago.

Joshua D
Joshua D

People actually smile here. LOL Yeah fake ones. People are so rude in California and without manors it is sickening. 

Erika J
Erika J

@Joshua D THAT'S NOT TRUE.  I LOVE TO VISIT NEW YORK, BUT YA'LL AIN'T A FRIENDLY BUNCH AT ALL, ESPECIALLY IN MANHATTAN.  IN LOS ANGELES, WE ARE VERY FRIENDLY, IF YOU TALK TO PEOPLE THEY TALK BACK.  WE ARE A LAID BACK BUNCH OF FOLKS, NEW YORK YOU GUYS ARE CONSTANTLY UPTIGHT AND STRESSED OUT ABOUT EVERYTHING; THAT'S WHY YA'LL ARE ALCOHOLICS.  IN LA, WE'RE BUD HEADS; YOU DO THE MATH.

Charlotte H
Charlotte H

You are full of it ! Don't stereotype a whole city on your experience of people you meet in the industry. Not everyone is fake and don't have real jobs. I am a down to earth hardworking with a real job.

Natalia C
Natalia C

New York is more active than L.A and not all the people in New York are uptight. Of course we are not going to say hi to you on the streets we don't even know who you are.

McKell F
McKell F

@Erika J @Joshua D I actually feel that's one stereotype about NYC that I found to be very wrong when I moved here. New Yorkers are very kind people and they have your back. We just don't deal with bull shit. :)